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Title: .257 bedding the action
Post by: .257 on August 08, 2017, 06:51:57 PM
I didn't care for the bedding in the recoil lug area of my .257 so I re-bed the lug area. It still shoots the 100 grain TTSX bullets sub MOA, some groups sub 1/2 MOA, but now it shoots the berger 115 gr into a 2 1/2" group. Before bedding it shoot them into a .75 group. I must have changed the pressure on the pressure points in the stock.
I thought about just taking the pressure points out and free floating the barrel but,, what happens if it than no longer shoots the TTSX bullets, which I really want to use in this rifle for hunting. The bergers are just for long range practice.
Do I just leave it alone or do I take a chance?? I would be upset if it no longer shot the barnes

Any thoughts or ideas
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: terminator on August 08, 2017, 07:03:32 PM
Gotta love the Barnes bullets.Dont jack with it.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: wyominghunter on August 08, 2017, 07:34:30 PM
I agree...if you like the way it shoots the Barnes, I would leave it alone.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: fuonlynu on August 08, 2017, 08:02:31 PM
I removed the pressure points from my MarkV and my Vanguard and both shot the same and better.  I pillar bedded the MarkV and it is super sub moa. Can't speak on the Barnes as they are not my flavor.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: southtxkiller on August 08, 2017, 08:33:39 PM
what model are we talking about ?,I  did a full glass bed to a deluxe once and it shot all over the place without the pressure point in the forearm,if the load you hunt with is good I wouldn't mess with it.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: DW5 on August 08, 2017, 09:10:40 PM
If it were me, I'd have to decide if I would be more upset with it not shooting the Barnes for hunting and having to start all over at square one with the rifle or if it not shooting the Berger 115's along with the Barnes was more irritating to me. How do the Barnes do for you at longer ranges? If it were me, and it was a dedicated hunting rifle, I'd probably be inclined to practice specifically with the load I was gonna hunt with anyways. But I do completely understand liking to be able to switch loads in a gun for different purposes. Hope it works out!!
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: .257 on August 09, 2017, 05:00:50 AM
The rifle is a Vanguard sub-moa. The rifles main use is hunting with Barnes bullets. This load is going around 3550, haven't shot it past 600 yards, it shot a 5 shot, 5" group.
Doing a scope tracking test with this load at 100 yards, I shot 18 rounds under 1" after re-bedding

The berger was going 3120 and would add to barrel life and was accurate to 1000 yds

Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: DW5 on August 09, 2017, 05:48:14 AM

The berger was going 3120 and would add to barrel life and was accurate to 1000 yds

I could definitely see why you would be interested in preserving the functional use of the Bergers.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: 224KING on August 09, 2017, 08:31:22 AM
I wouldn't put up with a 5 inch group at 600 yards either.Got to do something about that. Whhaaaat?
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: eford on August 09, 2017, 09:41:25 AM
Don't mess with what is working.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: zonie on August 09, 2017, 01:52:38 PM
As long as accuracy is consistent I'd leave it alone and fine tune your ttsx loads.  Sub moa is not bad I'm not a big fan of bergers for hunting ,  target shooting is a different subject.  I would be more inclined especially for a production rifle is to shoot  hunting bullets because that's what I'm using in the field anyway, and it just makes you a better longer range field shooter.  You can always try some of the Hornady or Sierra's for fun and see what it will do and not break the bank   
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: badsection on August 09, 2017, 02:04:50 PM
Don't mess with what is working.
Almost 30 years in repair, rule #1 Never fix what ain't broke!   ;D
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: canadian reloarder on August 09, 2017, 04:01:43 PM
257
I think I would not do any more changes to the stock,but probably would tweak the Berger load a little.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: .257 on August 09, 2017, 04:33:24 PM
I think I am going to take the don't mess with it advice. That is what I was trying to tell myself anyway, just needed more input from other shooters

Now what to do with the 600 berger bullets I have :o
Maybe when I rebarrel it will like the bergers again   ;D

Thanks guys for your input

Mike
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: O C hunter on August 09, 2017, 05:30:08 PM
With good groups like that good idea to leave alone. Free floating should help but with your 1 inch moa not much more to improve on.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: eford on August 10, 2017, 03:00:10 AM
For what it's worth, my 257 Weatherby, 6.5 Creedmoor, 280 Rem and 300 Weatherby get muzzle velocities much faster than what the reloading manuals show BUT I use the maximum cartridge length the respective magazines allow. Technically, this can leave more room in the case for powder but load work up is the key. When the a great load is found, its time to shoot a lot of it. Nothing beats good practice.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: zonie on August 10, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
It's always good to keep extra reloading components around for a rainy day,  you will eventually find a use for those berger's :) I kid you not I have around 30 boxes of 25 caliber bullets some not even opened when I was testing loads for our 2 weatherby nation 257 rifles , finally settled on the 110 grain accubond.  One of these days maybe I'll get another 25 caliber and start testing all over again.  The bullet I really liked in my son's and my 257 is a 100 gr swift scirocco accuracy is under 1/2 ", but opted for an extra 10 more grains in the accubond with slightly less accuracy mainly for elk otherwise I would stick with the 100 grainers barne's or scirocco's for deer.   it's still a 5 " shooter with the 110's  @ 6 hundred yds.  I did have to free float and bed both of these rifles to get it where I trusted the consistency shot after shot.
Title: Re: .257 bedding the action
Post by: fuonlynu on August 10, 2017, 11:36:32 AM
I think I am going to take the don't mess with it advice. That is what I was trying to tell myself anyway, just needed more input from other shooters

Now what to do with the 600 berger bullets I have :o
Maybe when I rebarrel it will like the bergers again   ;D

Thanks guys for your input

Mike

Let me know I might buy a couple boxes from you if you decide to rid of them. My 25-284 likes those.