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Weatherby Nation => Around the Campfire (General Discussion) => Topic started by: Huntnmachine on October 08, 2017, 09:02:54 PM

Title: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: Huntnmachine on October 08, 2017, 09:02:54 PM
Lot's of folks hunt with smoke poles so has Weatherby thought about tapping into this market?


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Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: Chris338378 on October 09, 2017, 05:38:11 AM
I don't think so and doubt they would.  There was a company that made high end inline muzzle loaders, Austin Hallock, but they went out of business.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: Blackbear3 on October 09, 2017, 08:14:37 AM
It's been mentioned here in the past, but I agree with Chris it would be very surprising to see Weatherby come out with a muzzleloader.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: danno50 on October 09, 2017, 09:00:05 AM
Too late to get into that game, but I don't think Weatherby has ever given it a thought. Most of the classic muzzleloader styles have already been reproduced, so building something that would appeal to  "all" hunters/shooters in order to be a success, along with developing the unique Weatherby brand muzzleloader ammunition would be way more than they could handle as a small company.(comparatively speaking) I agree with Chris and Blackbear3, theres just nothing to be gained by simply slapping the Weatherby name on a copycat muzzleloader.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: badsection on October 09, 2017, 03:01:18 PM
I have no interest in a muzzle loader. There is no advantage for me to have one since I only hunt hogs on private property, any center fire is a legal weapon.  :)
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: rockville on October 09, 2017, 07:59:08 PM
I don't think so and doubt they would.  There was a company that made high end inline muzzle loaders, Austin Hallock, but they went out of business.
I believe these were on Howa actions if I remember right.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: rockville on October 09, 2017, 08:01:52 PM
Everyone know I would like it. Smokeless will have a market for a longtime. Thats because you could still use black powder if your state requires it. My state like many others when it’s Muzzleloading season we can use anything that is a muzzleloader.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: wyominghunter on October 10, 2017, 05:36:19 AM
I initially didn't think there was much merit to this idea, then I looked at the Austin & Halleck muzzleloader mentioned above. Those are incredible and appear to be made on a Howa 1500 (Vanguard) action.

I can't see why this couldn't be offered at least through the custom shop. I would try to copy the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader ignition system and marry it to the Vanguard action.

I think this is a good idea...
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: fuonlynu on October 10, 2017, 06:14:15 AM
They should have accuired Austin & Halleck when they went under. Knight & Hale did nice inlunes and dropped the whole line. There had to be good reason.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: rockville on October 10, 2017, 08:39:35 AM
If they would I would buy one.
So if EVER this is an idea keep me and and a couple others in mind Weatherby. And Huntnmachine also :)
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: Chris338378 on October 10, 2017, 09:21:38 AM
I think the major reason Austin & Hallock went under was there wasn't much of a market for a high grade muzzle loader that ran around $1,000.  I'm not sure if it was built on a Howa action or not so I can't comment on that.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: rockville on October 10, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
https://auctionimages.s3.amazonaws.com/23431/30080/20950229.jpg
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: PARA45 on October 10, 2017, 06:07:04 PM
That is a great looking muzzle loader, but I doubt I'd want to pay $1000 for one.   :(
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: wby4ever on October 10, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
If it had that Mark V look it would sell.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: wyominghunter on October 10, 2017, 07:16:06 PM
You could do the same muzzleloader with a composite stock and reduce the price to around $600-$700. If Remington is marketing one, there must be a demand.
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: musicman on October 12, 2017, 01:53:30 AM
To be creative, make it with a "chamber" that is a little larger than the bore, and do the venturi shoulder.  I know, the pellets would rattle a little, if you use them.  Make it a big enough chamber to hold four pellets.  Make the ramrod so it will only push the bullet in up to the chamber.  Make it strong enough, where you could put smokeless powder in it as well, like the old Savage inline did.  It would "shoot flatter and hit harder" for sure.  MM
Title: Re: Weatherby smoke poles
Post by: rockville on October 12, 2017, 09:34:49 AM
Make it smokeless and use cut down .257/.270/7mm wby mag brass as the ignition. Make it in Vanguard series to make it less expensive. I would rather have a sabotless one but if Weatherby made one that I had to use a sabot I would still buy one. When I had my .300 wby mag I came very close to having it converted to a smokeless muzzleloader. I would of been the only one on the block with a Weatherby muzzleloader.