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Title: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: mcmurder77 on March 13, 2018, 11:46:45 AM
Hello all,
This is my first post, and I hope itís a great one :)
As the title says I am looking to buy my first Weatherby rifle. Iím looking at the Vanguard First Lite Edition and I just canít decide on a caliber. I am selling a couple of rifles that I do not use much anymore as I primarily archery hunt to fund this new project. I would like the rifle to be a great all around gun. To me that means antelope-elk, and good for elk at the 600yd range. My first thought was the new 6.5-300 but I have had a heck of a time finding consistent KE data on it up to and past the 500yd range. Maybe Iím just not looking in the correct place? I have also thought about the 300 Weatherby mag, but would it be too much for antelope and black tails? And what about the recoil?
The two rifles I am replacing are a .308, and a .300wsm. I would hope this next rifle will replace the other ones. My only other big game rifle would be a custom made 7mm Mauser from the 1950ís that I inherited. I assume I could use that for antelope if I drew a tag. Mainly I just want to make sure that whichever way I go the round will have enough KE to knock and elk down at the 600yd range, or possibly even longer, I donít want them to get hit and run off forever. :)

Thanks!
David
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: .257 on March 13, 2018, 11:55:31 AM
An elk at 600 yards or more to me means a 340 weatherby
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: Blackbear3 on March 13, 2018, 12:10:45 PM
Welcome to the Nation!!! At 600' the 127 LRX out of the 6.5-300 will have over 1,500 for energy, which should be plenty on any elk. So the main factor at that range is how good a shot you are and how much you practice. I say go for the 6.5-300 for an all around cartridge for antelope up to elk.
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: Blackbear3 on March 13, 2018, 12:13:15 PM
https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/#!/standard
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: Michiganhunter on March 13, 2018, 12:16:19 PM
Welcome to the Weatherby Nation.
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: oregonmarkv on March 13, 2018, 01:52:16 PM
I don't pay much attention to energy but my 6.5-300 with a 140g accubond at 3400 fps is going 2236 fps and 1554 foot pounds of energy at 700 yds.
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: Jameson on March 13, 2018, 04:18:46 PM
Welcome aboard.
JP
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: PARA45 on March 13, 2018, 04:54:49 PM
Welcome to the Nation!  I'd say go with 6.5-300, or the 300 Wby. 
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: mcmurder77 on March 13, 2018, 06:10:35 PM
THank you everyone for the replyís! I am really looking forward to this rifle, it will be my first non budget big game rifle. Iím leaning heavy towards the 6.5-300. Iím going to top it with a Leupold VX3L 4.5-14x50 with a Boone a Crockett reticle, and a CDS dial system.
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: DW5 on March 13, 2018, 06:11:42 PM
Welcome! Donít think you can go wrong either way. 6.5 probably gonna be a little easier on the shoulder.
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: 224KING on March 13, 2018, 06:58:41 PM
Get a 270 mag.Does the same job the 6.5-300 and does it way more economically.
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: Elvis300 on March 13, 2018, 07:40:23 PM
Welcome to the Nation.  300 Weatherby for everything you said and forget about it. 😎
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: mikemileski on March 14, 2018, 11:37:58 AM
The 140 grain VLD Hunting bullet in the 6.5-300 has more energy at 500 yards than all of the 270 Weatherby factory loads, all of the 7mm Weatherby factory loads and half of the 300 Weatherby factory loads. Plus, it shots flatter too. Since you're starting at ground zero and have your pick of any of them,  the choice is obvious :)

Mike Mileski
Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: Michiganhunter on March 14, 2018, 12:41:57 PM
I would suggest the 6.5-.300. I own one in the ultra lightweight and felt recoil is truly negligible. I also have a .300 Wby and recoil is significantly noticeable. I use the 127 gr. LRX on all deer and on a cow elk. I have taken quite a few antelope with the .257 but my next one will be with the 6.5-.300 just because itís new and I like it.
If I were to hunt elk a great deal more than any other big game, the .340 would be my choice. Long distances and ability to use heavyweight Bullets is why I would lean heavily towards the .340. I would practice a lot with a muzzle brake on it and if high decibels were a concern for hearing protection for myself and hunting buddies, I would leave the brake off. Otherwise I would leave it on.



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Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: mcmurder77 on March 16, 2018, 12:31:23 PM
I think Iím leaning heavily towards the 6.5-300. So now that I have that mostly settled, am I going to. Price much difference between the vanguard models? The First Lite model looks cool and all, but am I going to missing anything functionality wise by going that route?
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: Chris on March 16, 2018, 08:01:33 PM
I killed three deer with my 6.5-300 last year using the 127 grain Barnes. Most accurate load I have found that works in mine. Tried a few handloads with the 140 grain Accubond and 129 grain SST and tried the 140 grain Aframe. Recoil isnít bad either.
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: Michiganhunter on March 16, 2018, 08:55:48 PM
I think Iím leaning heavily towards the 6.5-300. So now that I have that mostly settled, am I going to. Price much difference between the vanguard models? The First Lite model looks cool and all, but am I going to missing anything functionality wise by going that route?
You will lose nothing with the basic Vanguard. My opinion is going with the least expensive synthetic Vanguard. If you donít reload, spend the savings on ammo with the grain weight you want and most accurate for the rifle. Then I would practice,
practice, practice.....getting comfortable with the rifle and shooting a great deal at all yardage anticipated will give you confidence.
That is more important than aesthetically pleasing. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Help buying my first Weatherby
Post by: HuskyMusky on March 28, 2018, 10:16:27 AM
I don't see any reason to get a 6.5-300wby to replace a 300wsm and 300wby..?

for antelope to elk.

compare the 6.5 with 140gr vs the 300wby with 150gr....