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Weatherby Products => Rifles => Topic started by: hoyt3417 on June 18, 2021, 03:37:38 PM
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I just wanna know I listened to the on our mark podcast the other day and he said it should have been out but he wants to catch up on orders before he let's it out. What do you guys think it could be? caliber and case. I'm just hoping it's not another 6.5
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Pretty sure it won`t be a 6.5 . A .338 rpm would be nice , or a 7mm-300wby. Maybe a 358wby .
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I say it’s a 7mm-300, a 7mm RPM or a 338 RPM.
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something based on the RPM case, likely a 7mm RPM or 338 RPM
Rob
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.500 Weatherby Magnum.... Don't like my chances but I will keep my fingers crossed still :o ;D
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Lol, that’s crazy. I hope it’s not a 22 rpm as I just got impatient and built a 22 creedmoor. Man, if I was venturing a guess, I’d say it’s a 30 just for heavies. The prc left a lot of room on the plate. I’d definitely crumble and buy if it’s a 22.
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.500 Weatherby Magnum.... Don't like my chances but I will keep my fingers crossed still :o ;D
that would be pretty cool, 8) but yea the chance are likely low, haha, a 6mm RPM with a 1-8 twist would be pretty cool also.
Rob
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A lot of mowing time today gave me plenty of time to ponder possibilities of the new Weatherby cartridge. With nothing more than what I’ve seen on Weatherby Nation and heard from o e guy at a wholesale outlet, a 338 RPM seems to be the top choice. Game wise, it would easily move a big, heavy bullet fast enough for anything in North America. As a lightweight rifle (such as a Ti Backcountry) it would be easy to carry at the high altitudes where elk can be. There is no need to comment on Weatherby’s accuracy. Last but not least, it offers a purpose-built, medium bore chambering / caliber with a fine array of hunting bullets with a high ballistic coefficient.
There it is, my 2 cents worth of Kansas summer heat induced thoughts.
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If a new cartridge is on the way, I hope they offer loaded ammo at the same time as the rifle. Otherwise, I'm not interested. Winchester's 6.8 Western come to mind. Ammo but no rifle! :)
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I just hope it’s not some fantastic cartridge I can’t live without cus my misses ain’t gunna be none too happy lol
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I was told by 2 Weatherby employees 2 years ago that they were working on a 7-378 Weatherby but had run into problems. So I’m sticking to that guess!
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On the recent Weatherby podcast Adam was testing a new cartridge on a Idaho bear hunt. The people he was hunting with said Adam shot his bear with a 338. So I am guessing a 338 rpm.
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Include 2 boxes of loaded ammo with the purchase of any new caliber rifle! ;D
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Whatever the new caliber is it will probably be based on the RPM case. Trying to do the same with the RPM case that Nosler did with the Nosler 26.
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Whatever the new caliber is it will probably be based on the RPM case. Trying to do the same with the RPM case that Nosler did with the Nosler 26.
I agree, for a company to spend the money and time on R&D for just one caliber don't make sense. I can easily see 4-5 different calibers based on the RPM case in the future. 8)
Rob
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.358-378 wby
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I was told by 2 Weatherby employees 2 years ago that they were working on a 7-378 Weatherby but had run into problems. So I’m sticking to that guess!
I dont think it's that. Adam said he had a caliber he went on an elk hunt with in 2018 and didn't release it cause it wasn't up to his standards
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284 RPM would be awesome!
7mm-300wby might be nice but I'm not sure... they'd want to take away from the 6.5 or 300wby.
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Boy…I don’t know. All the new calibers are really splitting hairs.
I can see the appeal of another RPM-based cartridge, but not sure the 338 or 7mm RPM make much sense. I guess they would be lighter, but quite a bit less powerful than a bunch of cartridges in those calibers.
I suppose the 7-300 Weatherby, but it going to be REALLY close to the 6.5-300 Weatherby…obviously. It is also extremely close to the 7mm STW, so not sure what you would gain.
A .35 would be interesting, but they don’t tend to be overly popular in the U.S. Maybe a 35-378? It would be a boomer…
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Another vote fr the 7-378 weatherby, all these hot rods in .28 caliber and I don’t recall a weatherby round. Other than the 7mm weatherby. Seems like the company likes to lead the pack with extreme hot rods. We will see.
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What I think it will be, not what I want, 7 or .277RPM.
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How about more left handed options in the already cool calibers they do have! :)
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Surely they won't go smaller than 6.5...
I'm hoping for 7mm or .338 RPM
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Watched the video of Adam taking a bear this spring.
I would guess, 338 RPM, in a new Backcountry TI, with a carbon fiber barrel
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It would almost have to be something based off the RPM in my opinion. They didn’t go through all the R&D on that platform to make one cartridge and move on.
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Watched the video of Adam taking a bear this spring.
I would guess, 338 RPM, in a new Backcountry TI, with a carbon fiber barrel
My thoughts as well.
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A .338 RPM would be an interesting proposition. A lot of people really liked the .338 Federal for its ballistics and efficiency compared to the .338 Win Mag. If they could slightly better the ballistics of the .338 Fed, they might be onto something?
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The RPM is all about putting the most energy possible downrange from the 6 lug Mark V action.
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What they need to do is offer the 6.5 RPM in the Vanguard lineup. Why they haven't done this is simply perplexing.
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When are they going to announce it?
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A 358 caliber rifle would tweek my interest. If offered in a classic wood stock would be even better! Anything else would be competing with the traditional rounds.
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I seriously doubt that a .358 RPM would offer any measurable improvement on a .35 Whelan.
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It would bring a sharper shoulder due to a fatter case and more velocity due to a good gain of powder capacity.
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In keeping with the original question and not what I would like to see I think the 7mm makes the most sense. I say that because the 7mm Wea. is not nearly as popular as the 257 & 270 Wea. It is a shame in a way that the 7mm is not more popular, it is better than the 7mm Rem Mag in my view but timing and marketing sadly at times determine that. I think that some of the same serious shooters that view the 280AI kindly would do the same for the 7RPM because it works with an '06 bolt face. The 280AI shooters attempt to match the 7RM but cannot quite do it, this would put them in the same league with a easy to carry but not abusive rifle.
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In keeping with the original question and not what I would like to see I think the 7mm makes the most sense. I say that because the 7mm Wea. is not nearly as popular as the 257 & 270 Wea. It is a shame in a way that the 7mm is not more popular, it is better than the 7mm Rem Mag in my view but timing and marketing sadly at times determine that. I think that some of the same serious shooters that view the 280AI kindly would do the same for the 7RPM because it works with an '06 bolt face. The 280AI shooters attempt to match the 7RM but cannot quite do it, this would put them in the same league with a easy to carry but not abusive rifle.
+1
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A 7mm RPM would be competing with not only the 7mm WBY but with the 7mm Remington. For the gain of .007" over the 6.8 , I hope not. A great twist rate might help. A 8mm RPM would be different!
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Every caliber from 30 cal down has a lot of competition, what I was in reference to was competition among the Wea. rounds and the 7mm Wea. is not as popular as it should be. I believe a 7RPM would go over very well although I really don't want one.
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I recently watched an episode on Gritty vlog that had Adam Weatherby shooting his "proprietary" rifle/cartridge (as mentioned previously, it looked like Backcountry with carbon barrel).
What I noticed also was that it appears to be a fairly heavy bullet...and flat shooting. Also was described as "long range" elsewhere in video. Adam shot a black bear with the bullet hitting a branch enroute to the target. No perceptible deflection but the branch went sailing. Left quite a nice vapor trail compared to the 140 gr AB that his hunting partners were shooting.
I'm guessing .338 RPM
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I watched the same vlog. A 338 RPM would also be my guess.
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That would be nice!
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I sure am enjoying this thread ;)
- Adam
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How about a hint.Is it based off the RPM case?
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I sure am enjoying this thread ;)
- Adam
I read this several times, l don’t see any Clue or hint. But maybe l am missing it. Haven’t had any coffee yet
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I sure am enjoying this thread ;)
- Adam
Yes, I think we are.
What if there are TWO new RPM cartridges?????
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In Adam's response there are six words plus an emoji. Coincidence? I think not!
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I sure am enjoying this thread ;)
- Adam
Well, we’re all dying of anticipation (and I’m spending $ on Wby rifles that will probably get replaced when you finally release the new cartridge).
Those Gritty videos were awesome! Especially the multiple river crossings 🤣
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In Adam's response there are six words plus an emoji. Coincidence? I think not!
I noticed that the previously offered 6CM in Backcountry is no longer offered…but then again, they offer both 6.5 RPM and 6.5 CM
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I’m curious what, if any changes were made to the chamber of the 300-378 mark and Sam were shooting those 250 atips. That’s some serious rpm’s. I know there’s a bunch of folks that are looking for something to push the 30caliber heavies faster than what’s currently on the table.
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In Adam's response there are six words plus an emoji. Coincidence? I think not!
With the multiple guesses, a few maybe correct. LOL!
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I will tell you these things...
1. In the past few years, I have taken game with more than one yet to be released cartridge (However, we sometimes test cartridges that never make it to production. It truly is a tough job, but someone has to do the product testing)
2. Our new product launch dates keep getting pushed back due to the shortage of supplies and heavy demand for current production cartridges. So, I do appreciate your patience. The last thing I would want to do is take up production capacity for a new case when there are customers needing ammunition that have rifles chambered in our cartridges. I need to make sure I take care of our loyal customers who really need ammo for their rifles. When things catch up a bit, you will most likely see a launch.
3. I'll give you a hint...it's not another 6.5 ;)
Adam
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I will tell you these things...
1. In the past few years, I have taken game with more than one yet to be released cartridge (However, we sometimes test cartridges that never make it to production. It truly is a tough job, but someone has to do the product testing)
2. Our new product launch dates keep getting pushed back due to the shortage of supplies and heavy demand for current production cartridges. So, I do appreciate your patience. The last thing I would want to do is take up production capacity for a new case when there are customers needing ammunition that have rifles chambered in our cartridges. I need to make sure I take care of our loyal customers who really need ammo for their rifles. When things catch up a bit, you will most likely see a launch.
3. I'll give you a hint...it's not another 6.5 ;)
Adam
Adam is funny! ;D
My money is on .338...and I really need one!
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Thank you for remembering loyal customers. I recently drove up to Sheridan and bought a new MK V. My first "Sheridan, Wyoming" made. I don't plan on it being my last.
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Lol, well, that answers that! I don’t see the demand tapering off anytime soon
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I would love to see a 358-378, I've always wanted a 358 sta and have been in love with that cartridge for many years and if weatherby made a cartridge to rival I would be all over it, but I don't believe the next cartridge will be the 358-378, I honestly think it could be a 27 rpm (to take advantage of the new higher b.c. bullets and too shut down the 6.8 western for good) or a 300 rpm or even a 338 rpm
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What ever it is ( thank God it's not another 6.5 ) I really hope they offer it in the vanguard. Cause even though I want a mark v I have a family a dog and a house to take care of and the vanguard line is how I can be a part of weatherby. Fingers crossed for a 340rpm
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Adam , thanks for the updates. Two things 1) I realize product testing can take it's toll , I will gladly help you any time . 2 ) a vanguard chambered in 340 wby would be awesome
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8mm-378 Wby! Because why the hell not!?!?! :)
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8mm-378 Wby! Because why the hell not!?!?! :)
I agree 100%
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358-378 as my second choice.
Fit nicely in my lineup of Weatherby rifles
.22 .224 .240 .257 .300 .30-378 — — .416
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8mm-378 Wby! Because why the hell not!?!?! :)
I agree 100%
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358-378 as my second choice.
Fit nicely in my lineup of Weatherby rifles
.22 .224 .240 .257 .300 .30-378 — — .416
Yep, neat rounds but sales would suck! Just the existing 378 with some of the new bullets is neat.
I like the old 375 Wea., it is a wee faster than 375 Ruger but you can shoot 375 H&H in a pinch but that might be too practical. But alas volume sales belong to the smaller bores I am afraid.
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8mm-378 Wby! Because why the hell not!?!?! :)
I agree 100%
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358-378 as my second choice.
Fit nicely in my lineup of Weatherby rifles
.22 .224 .240 .257 .300 .30-378 — — .416
Yep, neat rounds but sales would suck! Just the existing 378 with some of the new bullets is neat.
I like the old 375 Wea., it is a wee faster than 375 Ruger but you can shoot 375 H&H in a pinch but that might be too practical. But alas volume sales belong to the smaller bores I am afraid.
Yep agree entirely on all points. I would just like to see Weatherby make an 8mm because I'm an 8mm guy and I would buy one if they made a wood stock option. 8mms get very little love here in the U.S.
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I love each of the picks that everyone has posted but here is what I think. The big stuff (based on .378 case) wouldn’t sell enough to justify the expense. Those who stated that Weatherby didn’t invest in the 6.5 RPM just to offer one choice in the RPM line are on the right track. Think about it. The RPM case is a first for Weatherby - a totally new design that has nothing in common with their traditional cartridges. They didn’t do that just so they could offer one non-characteristic cartridge in their line. So if it’s on the RPM line, what caliber will it be? As much as I like 8mm, they don’t sell well in this country. Since their 7mm isn’t a hot seller, I can’t see them choosing that one either, at least not now. The .338 market also isn’t a huge seller. They offered 6.5 first, ostensibly because the market for 6.5’s is hot now. The .270 is popular and the new 6.8 Westerner is evidence that their is a belief that new .270 cartridges would sell. However, a .270 RPM would be only slightly larger than the 6.5 RPM. The last thing they need is a new RPM offering that would compete so closely with their existing one. I think it’s a .30 RPM. Since the 6.5 RPM is more powerful that the .264 Winchester Magnum, it makes sense that a .30 RPM would be close to (or better than) the .300 Winchester Magnum. Only it would be in a very light, 6-lug rifle. And .30 caliber has always been an American favorite. Whatever it is, I want one!
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Well, since the 6.5 RPM has a couple of grains less powder than a .264WM it would not equal the longer 300WM but it would be nice indeed, esp. for a lighter rifle to carry after Elk.
I had a 30-06AI in a M70 Ftw. that I used for my lighter Elk/woods rifle and a 300WM Sendero for more open areas. A 30RPM would fill the role of a light weight all-round rifle like my 30-06AI did but give you more velocity.
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I love each of the picks that everyone has posted but here is what I think. The big stuff (based on .378 case) wouldn’t sell enough to justify the expense. Those who stated that Weatherby didn’t invest in the 6.5 RPM just to offer one choice in the RPM line are on the right track. Think about it. The RPM case is a first for Weatherby - a totally new design that has nothing in common with their traditional cartridges. They didn’t do that just so they could offer one non-characteristic cartridge in their line. So if it’s on the RPM line, what caliber will it be? As much as I like 8mm, they don’t sell well in this country. Since their 7mm isn’t a hot seller, I can’t see them choosing that one either, at least not now. The .338 market also isn’t a huge seller. They offered 6.5 first, ostensibly because the market for 6.5’s is hot now. The .270 is popular and the new 6.8 Westerner is evidence that their is a belief that new .270 cartridges would sell. However, a .270 RPM would be only slightly larger than the 6.5 RPM. The last thing they need is a new RPM offering that would compete so closely with their existing one. I think it’s a .30 RPM. Since the 6.5 RPM is more powerful that the .264 Winchester Magnum, it makes sense that a .30 RPM would be close to (or better than) the .300 Winchester Magnum. Only it would be in a very light, 6-lug rifle. And .30 caliber has always been an American favorite. Whatever it is, I want one!
Hard to beat logic and reason like above, However I'm waiting for a .Mk V .375 Wby Mag. I definitely do not have a need for one but..... :)
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I love each of the picks that everyone has posted but here is what I think. The big stuff (based on .378 case) wouldn’t sell enough to justify the expense. Those who stated that Weatherby didn’t invest in the 6.5 RPM just to offer one choice in the RPM line are on the right track. Think about it. The RPM case is a first for Weatherby - a totally new design that has nothing in common with their traditional cartridges. They didn’t do that just so they could offer one non-characteristic cartridge in their line. So if it’s on the RPM line, what caliber will it be? As much as I like 8mm, they don’t sell well in this country. Since their 7mm isn’t a hot seller, I can’t see them choosing that one either, at least not now. The .338 market also isn’t a huge seller. They offered 6.5 first, ostensibly because the market for 6.5’s is hot now. The .270 is popular and the new 6.8 Westerner is evidence that their is a belief that new .270 cartridges would sell. However, a .270 RPM would be only slightly larger than the 6.5 RPM. The last thing they need is a new RPM offering that would compete so closely with their existing one. I think it’s a .30 RPM. Since the 6.5 RPM is more powerful that the .264 Winchester Magnum, it makes sense that a .30 RPM would be close to (or better than) the .300 Winchester Magnum. Only it would be in a very light, 6-lug rifle. And .30 caliber has always been an American favorite. Whatever it is, I want one!
Hard to beat logic and reason like above, However I'm waiting for a .Mk V .375 Wby Mag. I definitely do not have a need for one but..... :)
Why you waiting? You can get a Mark V 375 Wby though the custom shop, that where I ordered mine from.
The RPM case platform has many options on caliber's that can be made from it. So, we will just have to wait an see, but I doubt it will be a 30 cal next, the 30 cal market has a lot of options now. Not that a 30 RPM in the 6 lug action rifle, with a faster twist barrel, that could launch 180's about 2950-3000 fps, with the option to shoot heavier VLD bullets would be bad.
Rob
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What ever the newest Weatherby cartridge is based on the RPM case is likely NOT to be close to the 6.5 RPM---which means the .257 and .277 caliber bullets and maybe even the .243 and .284s. That leaves us at the .30 cal and larger. I doubt the smart guys at Weatherby Inc are going looking at a .224 fire breather but who knows?
Bullet weight / selection has to be a part of this too. There is not a wide selection for the 8mm (.323 cal) or .358 caliber family. There is a much larger selection in the .284, .308 and .338 caliber lines, so IF I was betting on it I would take one of those three, with some favor toward the .338s.
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Oh man, 22 rpm with a gain twist barrel. Please no. I really can’t afford that right now
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I’m curious what, if any changes were made to the chamber of the 300-378 mark and Sam were shooting those 250 atips. That’s some serious rpm’s. I know there’s a bunch of folks that are looking for something to push the 30caliber heavies faster than what’s currently on the table.
I think the biggest difference is Mark and Sam were shooting it in a 31 inch barrel. I understand why Weatherby offers it in a 26inch barrel (Hunting), but those big 378 cases really need a longer barrel to take full advantage of the case capacity.
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I could see that around here with some of the road hunters.
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Oh man, 22 rpm with a gain twist barrel. Please no. I really can’t afford that right now
I bet you have nothing to worry about with that one!
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Imagine a 338 RPM in a 4.9 lb. TI. I'd think about that a bit, being as un recoil concerned as I am. Would a non muzzle braked model trim the weight a bit more? ;D
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Imagine a 338 RPM in a 4.9 lb. TI. I'd think about that a bit, being as un recoil concerned as I am. Would a non muzzle braked model trim the weight a bit more? ;D
My .35 Whelen in a 9 1/2 lb Rem 700 with scope lets you know every time the trigger is pulled. I don't think I want to try it in a rifle that weighs half as much.
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Imagine a 338 RPM in a 4.9 lb. TI. I'd think about that a bit, being as un recoil concerned as I am. Would a non muzzle braked model trim the weight a bit more? ;D
My .35 Whelen in a 9 1/2 lb Rem 700 with scope lets you know every time the trigger is pulled. I don't think I want to try it in a rifle that weighs half as much.
The funny thing about recoil is when I’m hunting I have never remembered the recoil after shooting at game!!! So once a 4.9 lb rifle is sighted in, the recoil makes no difference to me. A .338 or .350 or .375 RPM would be a great little hunting rig! I’d have to consider adding to my collection, especially if it’s .375.
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I got an email yesterday showing an even lighter version of the six lug. It had new cartridge offerings of existing rounds like 6.5x284 but I did not see any new Weatherby Cartridge offerings.
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Imagine a 338 RPM in a 4.9 lb. TI. I'd think about that a bit, being as un recoil concerned as I am. Would a non muzzle braked model trim the weight a bit more? ;D
I hate muzzle brakes. I have one on my 8mm Rem Mag. Aside from being ugly, they are loud as crap.
I'm all for light rifles but I prefer them in the right application (ie: short action chambering in a M70 featherweight or model 7 remington). I don't want one in a big magnum.
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I'm all for light rifles but I prefer them in the right application.
Yeah no kidding. I have a 7.5 pound 450 Nitro Express Ruger #1, that is beyond brutal firing a 500gr bullet at 2400+fps.
I have a 378 and 460 as well, and they feel like a .223 compared to the Ruger.
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Wonder how much longer it's going to be before they release it?? Seems to be taking a long time.... :'(
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I got an email yesterday showing an even lighter version of the six lug. It had new cartridge offerings of existing rounds like 6.5x284 but I did not see any new Weatherby Cartridge offerings.
6.5x284, l have to look at that. One of my favorite cartridges
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And the wait continues... Has anyone heard any more?
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And the wait continues... Has anyone heard any more?
Nope have heard nothing....
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I've been holding off on buying a new rifle. I really wanted to wait to see what the new caliber is going to be but I dont think I'm waiting much longer. Come on Weatherby... what is it?
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Heading to a gun show in Casper this weekend. Still looking for a nice #1.
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Hey guys,
Truth be told, I would of launched a new cartridge last year if it weren't for the all time high demand and supply chain shortages. The bottom line is that our backlog of ammunition is so high that I need to service our customers with ammo for their existing Weatherby rifles first. If I launch a new cartridge it will eat into brass production capacity of existing cartridges. There are many customers out there who need ammo for their rifles and so my priority is to get closer to caught up on that first.
I hope that makes sense to you all. I do assure you we have something developed and tested ready to launch when things get more caught up. Oh, and then one after that too :)
Adam
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Hey Adam.... Thanks for jumpiing in with your update. Greatly appreciated. I, like others here, are some of the same guys that you refer to in your update with ammo needs and/or wants. I feel proud to be a part of a family that takes care of its customers. I'll tell ya Adam... I've been admiring the Backcountry 2.0 Carbon. Its one heck of a package. Ive just been trying to restrain myself in case the new cartridge was just around the corner. Thanks again Adam!
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Adam
Kudos to you for that customer oriented attitude!
I’ve watched that “Gritty” bear hunt episode many times now...I “need” that test rifle you hauled up and down those mountains (not to mention that crazy river crossing).
I’m new to the Mark V rifle club having bought (or won) four of your rifles (2xBackcountry, 2xAccumark) in the last couple of years...I think I can sit on my hands a while longer to get the new cartridge offering.
Again, thanks for taking care of your current customers...it’s been a crazy couple of years to be sure.
Cheers,
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:o sure sounds like 2 new calibers coming ::) this reminds me of the girl I had a thing for in high school, cock tease, cock tease, cock tease hahaha ;D but understandable trying to get caught up on the ammo back log.
Rob
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That is a great reason as to not announce the new cartridge yet. Great to see you are looking after your customers.
I too am thinking of buying the new Mark V Backcountry 2.0 Ti Carbon in either 6.5 RPM or the new cartridge. I am impatient as I have lots of ammo and brass for all my Weatherby rifles lol.
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LOL! Pretty cryptic, Adam! Not even a clue?
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.300 Whelen?
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.300 Whelen?
30-06...Who would have thunk it.
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There's a really big hole in the .284 caliber Weatherby lineup. The only thing they have, isn't any faster than a standard 7 rem mag. The 7STW has a 40 year head start. That's a long time to sit on your butt.
Tony
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Could a 7mm X .300 Weatherby be in the works?
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Hey guys,
Truth be told, I would of launched a new cartridge last year if it weren't for the all time high demand and supply chain shortages. The bottom line is that our backlog of ammunition is so high that I need to service our customers with ammo for their existing Weatherby rifles first. If I launch a new cartridge it will eat into brass production capacity of existing cartridges. There are many customers out there who need ammo for their rifles and so my priority is to get closer to caught up on that first.
I hope that makes sense to you all. I do assure you we have something developed and tested ready to launch when things get more caught up. Oh, and then one after that too :)
Adam
Makes sense to me.
Could a 7mm X .300 Weatherby be in the works?
I was originally thinking that as well; however, that would be the same ballistically-speaking as a 7mm STW. I think Weatherby would most likely up the ante a bit and go with a 7mm-378 WBY Mag, at least that's my take.
Food for thought... These are common calibers where Weatherby doesn't currently (or hasn't in the past) offer a Weatherby-developed cartridge/chambering:
- 8mm
- 35
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Hey guys,
Truth be told, I would of launched a new cartridge last year if it weren't for the all time high demand and supply chain shortages. The bottom line is that our backlog of ammunition is so high that I need to service our customers with ammo for their existing Weatherby rifles first. If I launch a new cartridge it will eat into brass production capacity of existing cartridges. There are many customers out there who need ammo for their rifles and so my priority is to get closer to caught up on that first.
I hope that makes sense to you all. I do assure you we have something developed and tested ready to launch when things get more caught up. Oh, and then one after that too :)
Adam
Makes sense to me.
Could a 7mm X .300 Weatherby be in the works?
I was originally thinking that as well; however, that would be the same ballistically-speaking as a 7mm STW. I think Weatherby would most likely up the ante a bit and go with a 7mm-378 WBY Mag, at least that's my take.
Food for thought... These are common calibers where Weatherby doesn't currently (or hasn't in the past) offer a Weatherby-developed cartridge/chambering:
- 8mm
- 35
I wouldn't consider either 8mm or 35 common, and I would highly doubt any new cartridges coming out in those.
Rob
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I wouldn't consider either 8mm or 35 common, and I would highly doubt any new cartridges coming out in those.
Rob
Depends on what part of the world you're in...
Winchester launched the 325 WSM 15 years ago, and the 350 legend even more recently. Personally, I'd welcome a Weatherby offering in either caliber.
Different strokes for different folks.
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I wouldn't consider either 8mm or 35 common, and I would highly doubt any new cartridges coming out in those.
Rob
Depends on what part of the world you're in...
Winchester launched the 325 WSM 15 years ago, and the 350 legend even more recently. Personally, I'd welcome a Weatherby offering in either caliber.
Different strokes for different folks.
I won't say the the 325 WSM is not a decent caliber, but let's be real, how many are they selling?? And far as I know winchester still the only one offering ammo, which mean not enough demand for any one else to produce ammo. Same with the 350 legend, a straight wall cartridge for limited purpose.
If there was any real demand for any 8mm or 35 caliber, bullet companys would be developing modern bullets for those caliber's, you don't see that happening.
I agree different strokes for different folks, but just because a few folks would like to see a weatherby in every caliber, I highly doubt there is even close to enough demand of it to make them any money, to even cover the cost of R&D.
Rob
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I'm loading 220gr A-Frames and Woodleigh Protected Points in my 325 WSM. They are modern enough and sub moa. :) Most 8mm bullets are designed for the Mauser's much slower velocity. My 35 is a over 100 year old round, 35 Remington. Yes, limited appeal! A 35 RPM in a super light rifle might change that but a 338 RPM would be cool.
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I would love to see Weatherby reintroduce the 220rocket or a 22-240. Years ago i started to play with a 7mm-378 but the gunsmith i had do the work screwed up the extractor and it would not extract anything. my project started out to be a 7mm-300 and he screwed up the chamber and that is why i tried 7mm-378.I don't think Weatherby will introduce a new caliber but a new cartridge in existing caliber. I would love to see either or both 7mm-30 7mm-378 but only Weatherby knows for sure. If only Adam could tell us what the new cartridges are even though we would have to wait for the release date. ;D ;D ;D
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I wouldn't consider either 8mm or 35 common, and I would highly doubt any new cartridges coming out in those.
Rob
Depends on what part of the world you're in...
Winchester launched the 325 WSM 15 years ago, and the 350 legend even more recently. Personally, I'd welcome a Weatherby offering in either caliber.
Different strokes for different folks.
So much for the .325WSM launch! ::)
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I would like to see a 25 cal rpm with an 8 wrist barrel along with a 270 and 7mm rpm wth an 8twist or offer the old chamberings with tight twist barrels to take advantage of new high bc bullete
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I won't say the the 325 WSM is not a decent caliber, but let's be real, how many are they selling?? And far as I know winchester still the only one offering ammo, which mean not enough demand for any one else to produce ammo. Same with the 350 legend, a straight wall cartridge for limited purpose.
If there was any real demand for any 8mm or 35 caliber, bullet companys would be developing modern bullets for those caliber's, you don't see that happening.
I agree different strokes for different folks, but just because a few folks would like to see a weatherby in every caliber, I highly doubt there is even close to enough demand of it to make them any money, to even cover the cost of R&D.
Rob
Cool...
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Hey guys,
Truth be told, I would of launched a new cartridge last year if it weren't for the all time high demand and supply chain shortages. The bottom line is that our backlog of ammunition is so high that I need to service our customers with ammo for their existing Weatherby rifles first. If I launch a new cartridge it will eat into brass production capacity of existing cartridges. There are many customers out there who need ammo for their rifles and so my priority is to get closer to caught up on that first.
I hope that makes sense to you all. I do assure you we have something developed and tested ready to launch when things get more caught up. Oh, and then one after that too :)
Adam
So now there are two new cartridges waiting in the que. Without any idea of when they’ll be available, I’m not sure whether that makes me feel better or worse! The entire industry has dragged it’s feet on investing in additional tooling/equipment even after years of record profits. it’s been reported that one large ammunition company has $1,000,000,000 in backlogged orders. Yeah, that’s the correct number of zeros. One BILLION dollars. If that’s not enough to trigger their management to invest in production capability, I don’t know what is. COVID, political divisiveness, and more than 10 million new gun owners will have long-lasting effects which will guarantee very high demand for a long time. None of these companies were founded or grew larger under such bright future prospects for sales. This is why I fear that the industry as a whole will never “get closer to caught up” on ammunition production. With all this said, I think Adam Weatherby has done more to bring Weatherby into the modern era than any other rifle/ammunition company in the world. So maybe we can be hopeful that we’ll see at least one of these new cartridges in a few months. If a year rolls around and nothing has changed, I’ll look at other options for a rifle that I don’t need.
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Only time will tell
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I'd guess we have run the gamut, shy of a 416 RPM. ;D
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224RPM?
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224 cal in a shortened RPM case with just a little more powder capacity than the 220 Swift like the 220 Weatherby Rocket capacity,but with 1 in 8 twist for 80gr pills.
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224 cal in a shortened RPM case with just a little more powder capacity than the 220 Swift like the 220 Weatherby Rocket capacity,but with 1 in 8 twist for 80gr pills.
that would be cool 8)
Rob
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Where a bolt action 224 might be great in Canada, competing with 223/5.56 AR's is a lost cause in the U.S., IMO. :)
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Where a bolt action 224 might be great in Canada, competing with 223/5.56 AR's is a lost cause in the U.S., IMO. :)
yeah, that's good point
Rob
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The 22CM craze is in full bloom around here.
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The 22CM craze is in full bloom around here.
Everything CM is in full craze around here! Great little rounds can't knock them - smaller and short action seems to be a thing these days like PRC, people buying vangaurds in prc and would by them in a mark v over the rpm?
Want an rpm but i'm waiting on wby to move to LH line and i will punch that ticket!