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Hunting with Weatherby => Elk => Topic started by: DLH on June 07, 2013, 09:55:02 PM

Title: Elk Rifle
Post by: DLH on June 07, 2013, 09:55:02 PM
 ???Ok here the poop.  I am using my 338 WM in a Weatherby for MY elk hunt. BUT my hunting buddy just got a divorce, and his EX has All his gun tied up, he can't even use one of his own guns?

    So what do you think about a 7MM Rem Mag. in a early Weatherby. This gun Loves Combined Tech  160gr Partition Gold bullets!

This gun Will NOT shoot 175 any things.
So do you think this combo will do the job?
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: zonie on June 07, 2013, 10:42:09 PM
The 7mm rem mag is a fine elk cartridge we have  three 270 win's  two that were passed down from our foldk even though we have many other rifles to chose from.   My dad got his pre-64 now mine in 1950 so it's been killing elk now on 63 years.  My wife and son both use 270 win's, one son in law  uses a 7mm rem mag another son in law and my  youngest daughter both use a 30-06.   Elk are big aminals so long as you hit em right they go down.   Hit them wrong with any suitable caliber including big magnum it's off to the races.  I load 150 partitions in the 270's and it plows right thru. 
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: Chris338378 on June 07, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
A 7mm Remington Magnum will work just fine on an Elk with the 160 grain Partitions.  It seems people tend to think Elk are some super deer that need big magnums to kill them.  You can kill an Elk with a .270 Winchester with quality bullets as long as you place your shot properly.  I'd have no second thoughts or hesitations on using the 7mm Remington Magnum.  Good luck on your hunt. 
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: badsection on June 08, 2013, 04:57:10 AM
My elk outfitter recommended .270 Win as a minimum. I saw his father take a nice 5x5 with a 7mm Rem. Mag.  My nephew took his with a .30-06.   :)
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: grizzly340 on June 08, 2013, 06:38:36 AM
I used the 160 gr. partition golds in my 7mm rem mag. for caribou. They each req'd. 3 shots right in the boiler the 3rd. shot on both Layed them flat out. But that was A very cold hunt. and are group of 15 hunters took 30 caribou. All req'd. mulitable shots. It was like you had to hit them with A shot or two to wake them up. Like Chris said Bullet placement is the most important factor.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: jimincolo on June 08, 2013, 07:20:39 AM
A good bullet from a 270/06/7mm class rifle is more than adequate for the job. I've seen more elk taken with a 270 than anything else, & regularly use a .308. Shot placement is a hundred times more important than caliber.
                                                                                                   Jim
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: godscountry on June 08, 2013, 07:24:17 AM
That 7mm magnum with those bullets will do the job. A little bit of caution here, if your buddy was arrested for any kind of domestic assault and he is found with a rifle, not only could he go to jail but you could lose your rifle. :o
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: fuonlynu on June 08, 2013, 07:41:50 AM
7mm and 140's-150's or the heavy 160's will be great for Elk.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: badsection on June 08, 2013, 01:37:03 PM
After reading stories about moose being regularly taken with 6.5X55 mm , I have no questions about almost any 7mm being capable of taking elk.   :)
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: wyominghunter on June 08, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
No problem.  I've killed two bulls with a .280 Remington using 140 grain bullets (barrel wouldn't stabilize 160 grain bullets).  Dropped in their tracks with one shot.  I'm using a .300 Winchester Magnum with 180 grain Accubonds this year, but that is only because there is a possibility of a bear encounter.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: jimincolo on June 08, 2013, 07:08:02 PM
Bad & Jeff,

Bad, you are right about the 6.5x55. With a heavy handload  or the higher pressure European ammo, it's just about a ballistic twin to our .270. My relatives in Norway use it annually for moose, stag, etc.

Jeff the .280 is a great round. From my perspective, it gives up very little to the 7 mag in the field. It makes a great mtn. rifle in a lightweight package.

                                                                                         Jim
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: DLH on June 08, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
Thanks Guys!! Good Info.

    My buddys problem is not Firearm restrictions,  The Ex. just wants HALF of every thing! so he can't use nothing!  He can't even ride his Harley!  She always was a BITCH!!!!!
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: james7mmwby on June 08, 2013, 09:51:45 PM
My moose rifle is a 7mmwbymag. I load 140gTSX up to 160g partitions. That rifle and those bullets have taken deer bear and moose, none ever asked for seconds, Most of my buddies shoot 270, 308, 30-06 all work well on moose so why not elk.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: montana4me on June 11, 2013, 08:26:26 AM
A 7mm Mag is a great Elk caliber. just don't hit them in the guts or ass & think they'll go down. They'll be in the next county in minutes. A good shot is always needed. No worries on the 7mm. A lot of people around here use them on Elk and kill them with ease.  :o
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: godscountry on June 11, 2013, 12:07:37 PM
Shot my first elk with a 7mm Rem mag, he was below me quartering to me. Hit him right where the front shoulder meets the neck. He dropped in his tracks, got back up and ran downhill for about 100 yards. Left absolutely NO blood trail but I saw which direction he went and was able to find him. My two buddies both use 7mm STWs. I now use my 340 Weatherby Magnum with 250 gr. Nosler Partitians, leaves blood from both sides.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: badsection on June 11, 2013, 01:11:23 PM
DLH, I sold my all my guns to a friend for $1 so I could say I sold them to pay child support. Bought them back for the same amount after the divorce was final. If I ever hunt elk again, I will take my .338 Sub Moa Vanguard. I would not feel under gunned with my 7mm WBY or my 7mm WSM.  :)
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: Huntnmachine on June 11, 2013, 01:56:40 PM
Hey bad,
Do you see any ballistic difference between the 7mm weatherby and 7wsm...............from what I see they are pretty much identical except the price of factory ammo


Terry
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: badsection on June 11, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
They are very close with 140gr bullets. The 7mm Wby does better with heavier bullets. My 7mm WSM is a great shooter in spite of a nasty trigger ( Winchester model 70). I have taken several hogs with it, no critters with the Accumark,YET!    :)
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: buffybr on September 23, 2013, 07:02:01 PM
Like others have replied, the 7mm Rem mag is a great elk cartridge.  Put a deep penetrating bullet in the crease behind the shoulder, and you'll have a dead elk.

My primary elk rifle is my.300 Weatherby Vanguard shooting 168 gr Barnes TSX or TTSX bullets.   My backup (foul weather) elk rifle is a 7mm Rem mag shooting 160 gr Nosler accubond bullets.  It's a stainless 700 Rem BDL in a plastic Rem stock.  It shoots great and weather can't hurt it.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: idahogrose on December 04, 2013, 07:54:57 AM
I have killed 8 elk to date with a 7mm RM...  Hit them in the right spot, and have no worries.  I load 150 gr Nos BT with 61 gr of IMR 4350.  Its what my Browning likes....
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: HuskyMusky on March 06, 2018, 09:12:36 PM
160gr is the ideal elk load in the 7mm rem.mag. IMO, not the 175.

use a tough premium 160gr 7mm bullet and don't think twice, faster, flatter, plenty of energy. the 160>175 IMO.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: buffybr on June 17, 2018, 02:38:00 PM
Its been several years since my previous post to this thread, but besides being an excellent elk cartridge, here's a picture of my third entry to the B&C record book with my 7 mm Rem Mag and 160 grain Accubonds, a 388"+ Quebec Caribou that I shot last fall.
(https://i.imgur.com/UOGUl4D.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: danno50 on June 17, 2018, 06:52:17 PM
Congrats. You certainly can't argue with results like that.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: .257 on June 17, 2018, 07:32:34 PM
Wow that is a great bull congratulations
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: catskinner on June 19, 2018, 12:15:29 AM
that is a great caribou  8) What outfitter and where in Quebec was the hunting?

Rob
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: buffybr on June 19, 2018, 09:37:10 AM
Thanks guys

I hunted with Leaf River Outfitters in their Lac Desbergeres camp.  They paired me up with two other hunters, and since I was the oldest guy in camp, they graciously gave me first shot.  I shot that bull the first afternoon, and one of the other hunters in my group shot another B&C bull the next day.

Unfortunately, the Québec government closed all nonresident caribou hunting at the end of last season.
Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: HuskyMusky on June 21, 2018, 02:24:32 PM
I'd prefer the 160grs for elk actually over the 175.

flatter shooting, think many 160s have a higher BC than the 175s as well, and in a premium bullet, take your pick, tsx, NP, swift, etc... they'll all be plenty for elk.

Title: Re: Elk Rifle
Post by: sschefer on September 07, 2018, 09:06:02 PM
7mm Rem Mag is OK and so is a 270 WM. I prefer the 300 WM or 300 WSM. I shoot Nosler Accubonds 165g.