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The 6.5mm Creedmoor seems like a great "other" rifle for small and medium size game animals, even long-distance plinking if that appeals to him. A Mark V 300 Wby is an excellent first choice.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Deer disease
« on: Today at 05:00:53 AM »
The US Dept of Agriculture stopped funding CWD research due to no link between it and being transmitted to humans. I don’t think that is the end of the concern for it. One buck where I hunt tested positive for it several years ago. That’s not going to stop me from hunting or taking the meat from what I harvest.
It is interesting how all the positive tests in the study I knew of several years ago were from bucks. Perhaps the prions are transmitted when they are in contact when fighting, such as nose-to-nose contact or through the water they drank——-but wouldn’t the does drink from the same watering holes or tanks?

The Weatherby haters are more uninformed than they are mean. They simply don't know what they're speaking or writing about and being a critic is easier (perhaps more fun, too) than trying to understand the situation. The recoil of equal weighted 300 Win Mags and 300 Wby Mags is virtually indistinguishable. When an inexperienced rifleman pulls the trigger and is not prepared through either training or self-awareness of the physics involved in recoil, they're in for an unpleasent experience------not matter what the cartridge / rifle.
The guy who told me the 300 Weatherby was too much for deer had no response for me when I told him it can use the same bullet as a 30-06 Sprinfield. Roy Weatherby didn't make great cartridges to use at so-so velocities. He made them to go faster than anything else around, and they're still great at what they do.

There are plenty of accurate rifles, no doubt. Make this one sing and you will find plenty of things for it.

I've always wondered if it is legal to carry concealed a pistol that isn't registered to you?I don't think I own a pistol that is registered in my name.Actually I know I don't own a pistol that is registered in my name.
Registered is a word that can mean different things to different people. What are you defining as registered?
I have several firearms that were given to me without anything about them being associated with my name.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: May be a fool question
« on: February 13, 2019, 04:36:41 AM »
There is a mountain bison, which is a smaller version of its more famous plains variety cousin. The two look very much alike.

I carry a Smith & Wesson M&P Compact 9mm, and occasionally my Springfield Armory 1911 Range Officer .45 ACP. I can’t carry at school. I am frequently asked what I would carry there if permitted.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Knives as gifts
« on: February 11, 2019, 08:06:26 PM »
About 10-12 years ago a friend of my dad’s gave him the knife on the left. It was made as a sort of time killing project that turned into a long line of excellent knives. We’ve referred to that knife as the Original Hess knife. It fits well, skins well as keeps an edge. What more can a great knife do. Dad gave it to my youngest son several years ago.
Inspired by the Hess knife, my son made the Zebrawood handled knife on the right. It wasn’t his first knife, nor his largest. These are two if my favorites.
I made the Kydex sheaths.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Calling it a "Roy"
« on: February 08, 2019, 02:56:01 PM »
Many years ago I asked the owner of a gun store in Garden City KS if he had many used 30 caliber magnums through his place as trade-in rifles. He was telling me about how various manufacturers were making better rifles than others and I had plenty of time so I listened to his speech, then asked him if he had many Weatherby’s through his store. He told me “you and your lawyer friends can shoot those.” I thanked him for his time and haven’t been back. I have no idea what his point was. I heard he sold his store a few years after I was there.

Knowing how hard it was to find a 7mm Wby Mag, I had one made on an Czech Mauser action. Not long after getting it I found some "real" Weatherby's in 7mm Wby Mag and I wondered about selling the Mauser. I didn't sell it, a few weeks ago the Mark V practically fell into my hands, and I'm totally happy with what I have.

I read one review of a Rem 700 and a Wby Mark V, both chambered in 257 Wby and the Rem came out as the better deal in price and accuracy. Was there favoritism shown by the writer? I don't know. I will not judge a rifle by its price.

I think I’ve seem Ruger #1s in Weatherby chamberings. Blaser makes a 300 Roy. New Ultra Light Arms will make you anything that fits their actions.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: New User to forum
« on: February 07, 2019, 03:48:16 PM »
Juan: The rear (or far left) setting of the three position safety on a S2 trigger locks the bolt and will not allow firing. The middle position allows the bolt to be opened or closed, and still not allow firing. The safety position in the far right or all the way forward is the FIRE position.

The trigger on Vanguards is adjustable----but be cautious and check the users manual. What makes the S2 trigger a 2-stage type is the trigger has very little resitance in its initial movement, then there is tension / resitance and with a bit more pressure it breaks / fires. There is no easy movement with the S1 trigger. It simply moves until it fires.

There is a slight cosmetic difference in the barrel / receiver finish on the S2s. Their metal is finished in matte black. The S1s had a spun satin look to them, as Daniel Weatherby called it when he was describing the difference in their appearence. As far as I know, there is no actual difference in the bore of a S2 compared to the older version.
The difference in the trigger and the newer stock design are large contributors to the S2s sub MOA guarantee. I don't know of other true differences between the Vanguard's that could be contributing to the overall improved accuracy.

I put two S2 triggers on older Vanguards and both showed improvements with accuracy. One rifle now has a Bell & Carlson Medalist stock. The other one wears a Sporter stock from Weatherby. Despite being in different stocks, I think the trigger changes made a much bigger difference than the stocks. Neither receivers are bedded.

Last but not least, if you like Timney triggers then it is likely you won't like the S2 trigger. I have Timney's on two old Mauser rifles that were rebarreld to other chamberings and I cannot complain about those triggers.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: New User to forum
« on: February 07, 2019, 01:19:49 PM »
Juan: The orignal Vanguards, aka the S1 models, have a two-position safety and injection molded stocks. Some of them were great shooters out of the box. At best, the average trigger was so-so but some were good. All were adjustable. The best shooting rifles at the factory got Medalist stocks and were sold as the Sub MOA Vanguards.

The S2s have a three position safety, a 2-stage (adjustable) trigger, stiffer stocks with grip pads on the neck and fore end, and a sub-MOA guarantee with factory or premium ammo.

You can put a S2 trigger on a S1 receiver. A Timney trigger is usually a little less than a Weatherby trigger, but if you like the 2-stage trigger on the S2 then keep it. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: New User to forum
« on: February 07, 2019, 10:42:24 AM »
Welcome aboard. The 300 Roy is a fine cartridge and one of my favorites.
The S2 offers a much better trigger than the original (S1) Vanguards, and although some people do not like the 2-stage trigger, I sure do.  The accuracy of a S2 is outstanding, especially if you're a handloader. Aside from accurate and reliable, what more can a rifle be?

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Calling it a "Roy"
« on: February 07, 2019, 10:34:12 AM »
I do not know of a better forum for firearms and hunting discussions than Weatherby Nation. We are self-policing and for the most part, subject matter experts. The other forums have more than their share wanna-bes and such. It is usually quick to tell who is full of hot air vs who knows their stuff.
We call it a 257 Roy or a 300 Roy out of respect for the man who made those cartridges and their rifles great. The respect for the quality and the era of great workmanship are strong, thankfully.

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