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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 8mm experiences
« on: Yesterday at 05:34:45 PM »
I bought an 8mm Remington Magnum in an old Remington model 700 BDL a few years ago and when I called Remington I was told that it was one of the first 100 they made which made me pretty happy.  At this point I'm using the Nosler Custom Loaded 200 grain Accubonds in mine and get 3/4 inch or a little better groups at 100 yards.  I don't think the recoil isn't bad, I'd say it's similar to a bit less than a .338 Winchester Magnum, but I don't mind recoil so you might think differently about that.  The 8mm Remington Magnum is made off of a .375 H&H Magnum case that has it's walls straightened out and is necked down to .323 caliber.  It will do anything a .338 Winchester Magnum will do and will reach out to the same ranges also.  I always wanted one since they first came out and I like the caliber quite a bit.  I haven't worked up a load for it yet but I'm going to stick with the 200 grain Nosler Accubonds and according to Nosler the most accurate powder is RL22 and the most accurate load is 80.5 grains of RL22 with a Federal 215 primer. 

Rifles / Re: 460 Weatherby Dangerous Game rifle
« on: Yesterday at 12:46:56 PM »
Chris:I love the Lazers. Is yours a 4 panel or 5 panel. Post pictures when you get a chance.
  Sorry I didn't see this until now.  Mine is a Weatherby Custom  four panel Lazermark.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Anybody Own a .30 Carbine?
« on: January 19, 2019, 03:24:23 PM »
Back in 88 I could've bought one for $75 and like a dummy I didn't.  Man I can kick my own butt for not getting one. 

Depends on what state you live in too.

Very true and also depends on the level of the bottom feeder lawyer who's bringing the case against you.

I agree with you.  The Hornady Spire Points are a good bullet, are accurate in many loadings,  have a very nice price, and many times underrated. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: ANNA Bill
« on: January 18, 2019, 05:08:27 PM »
PLEASE tell me this is a joke because with Pelosi and Feinstein mentioned I could totally believe that they're actually trying to get this passed.
Pelosi and Feinstein are proof that this bill is already in effect in the Senate.
I agree, now they want to make it an equal playing field for their present, future, and deceased voters.

That's certainly the truth.

Rifles / Re: Tax Refund
« on: January 18, 2019, 03:21:47 PM »
That's a great plan for the tax refund.  I haven't worked up a load for my 7mm Weatherby Magnum yet but I've had good groups from the 175 and 154 grain Spire Points.

The point that I tried to make is with a shotgun when using shot you have multiple projectiles going down range at the same time which spreads out hence increasing the odds of hitting an innocent person.  This is the primary reason many law enforcement agencies are moving away from using shotguns and using more patrol rifles.   Some agencies have even removed all their shotguns from service.  For the issue of getting sued no matter what weapon you use in a deadly force incident you're going to get sued.  The point I'm trying to explain is how the lawyers who are suing you are going to try to portray you choice of weapon to attempt to make the jury believe your intent was to kill rather than stopping the threat you were faced with.  Regarding Danno50's statement that the sole purpose of ammunition for pistols is to kill people not animals, there isn't one ammunition company that will ever say that in any form in any ad or statement because of the civil liability they'd face from that statement. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: ANNA Bill
« on: January 18, 2019, 11:45:50 AM »
PLEASE tell me this is a joke because with Pelosi and Feinstein mentioned I could totally believe that they're actually trying to get this passed. 

I have a difference outlook on shotguns as a home defense weapon.  Yeah they'll get the job done extremely well with most ammunition but there's a down side to them.  If you're using shot you have the possibility of injuring an innocent person and on the flip side of that if you're using slugs you run the risk of over penetration and also possibly injuring an innocent person.  The thing that I don't think many people realize or consider is the fact that after the situation is done you're going to have to justify what you did.  Sure you could be, and hopefully are, justified in using deadly force however if you injure an innocent person your problems are just getting started and could have some extremely serious consequences.  It's going to start off with explaining why you did what you did to some police officer who might not know much about guns and might even have some ideas about you even before he lays eyes on you just because of what your choice of weapon was.  Besides that you're going getting sued, that's a guarantee,  you could end up being arrested, convicted, and spending time in jail.  And with some of the crazy decisions district attorneys and rulings judges make these days the odds of that happening today are even greater than they were five or even ten years ago.  Imagine sitting in court and have some bottom feeder lawyer who's suing you start showing the jury one of those little shotguns with the pistol grips and saying look at the weapon the defendant used, I bet the only time you saw something like this was in a movie when they used it to kill someone.  Or they start showing it off while they're cross examining you and asking you if it was your intent to kill the person.  The thing is lawyers have months and even years to pull apart and make arguments against a decision you had seconds to make, it happens every day in courtrooms across the country.  I'm not telling you not to buy it or use it if you have to, I'm just saying think about it before you're explaining some hard questions that may alter your life for God only knows how long on why you did what you did and why you used what you used.

I don't get the craze with the short barrel shotguns with the pistol grip.  Maybe they're trying to appeal to the movie crowd or make them appear cool but most people will only shoot them once and regret doing it.  To me they rate up with a turtle on a fence post.  There's some nice new stuff coming out and some that'd I'd classify as junk such as the Standard Manufacturing S333 Thunderstruck.  What a piece of crap, I'd be embarrassed to even look at that let alone buy one. 

I wish Hornady would bring back the 200 grain Spire Points in .338 caliber and Weatherby would load them again, they shot extremely well, half inch or better depending on the day, out of my Brother's .340.  That was a really good bullet with a really nice price.

That is absolutely beautiful and a testament to the talent, skill, and attention to detail of the craftsman(men) who did all that engraving work.  For the level of skill and time that it took to make that beautiful rifle the prices are very reasonable.
 Thank you for sharing this with us and as always we look forward to all the new info. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Lake of the Woods trip
« on: January 16, 2019, 02:15:07 PM »
That's a slammer Walleye and awesome shanty.  In my area we'd very rarely if ever be able to pull out a shanty like that on the ice because it doesn't get thick enough.  You're definitely in ice fishermen's heaven on earth there.

Rifles / Re: First Weatherby, First Lite 257 mag, very impressed
« on: January 16, 2019, 02:12:48 PM »
Yep there's a twelve step program for that, it's called buy twelve more rifles.   ;D

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