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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Returning to the frey
« on: March 16, 2018, 09:45:28 AM »
Welcome back. Wondered what happened as I had not seen you post for a while. I had to shoot left handed for a few years as the only rifle I could borrow was a lefty 270 win. Hardest part was getting my hands/arms to feel comfortable in the reversed positions. It took a while but I got the hang of it. I have not had to shoot left handed for over 40 years now but I still do it once in a while, just in case. Off handed is still way better than not hunting/shooting at all. Praying the vision gets better. 

That covers it. Great video. :)

What's the guy shooting?223 in an AR with heavy bullets?Anyone care to take a guess?
My guess is with the loud impact, a 300 AAC with heavy bullets.

Thanks TD.The 350 SMK has a BC of .8 and a 350 Barnes has a BC of .45 so it has to be a lot longer.Think I will order some of the SMKs and do some tinkering.
Don't want to be offensive, but bullet material has more to do with bullet length, than weight does. If you look at  the Nosler site and compare the same weight and caliber Accubond Long range bullet and the E-tip you will find that the E-tip is longer but has a lower B.C. (7mm 150 grain). I have called Sierra before and asked the bullet length for some of their 7mm bullets and they have given me that information. I don't use match bullets as I don't usually shoot long range. Comparing the Barnes .308 match burner 175 grain (heaviest available, match, lead bullet) with their .308 175 grain LRX (Lead free bullet) the LRX is 1.472 Inches & B.C. is .508 and the match burner is 1.332 inches with a BC of .521.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 300Wby vs 300Win Mag
« on: March 01, 2018, 12:05:31 PM »
TD, this not a flame, but felt recoil is subjective and the difference in recoil between a 300win mag shooting a 180gr bullet and a 300 Wby shooting a 180gr bullet is 5.5 lbs. difference. Some people handle recoil better than others, and its almost something you need to experience first hand to form your own opinion as to how much is too much "kick" to choose one over the other. When I got my 300 Wby, I knew that eventually I would put a muzzle brake on it, but I shot it for over a year without a brake. I wanted to see how bad this monster that everyone talked about would kick. At the range I was able to shoot 15 rounds off the bench before I noticed any stinging in the shoulder. I think the 300 Wby, like the 300Win have a true kick, but I think its over stated in many cases.thx jmo
No problems danno50. I'm not a little guy (250lbs + ) and can take some abuse from a gun's recoil. I shot mine in the Tupperware factory stock till it ripped the sling swivels out of the forearm with a bi-pod hanging on it and replaced the stock with a B&C Medalist with a Pachmyer recoil pad and adding the extra weight didn't help it still caused my eyes to blur when I shot it. My Ruger M77 Hawkeye .338win mag doesn't do that with 250gr bullets, 3"12ga 1oz slugs out of a pump shot gun doesn't do it either. Maybe I just got one that didn't fit me right but I won't buy a second one.
TD I had the same opinion about 7mm Rem mags for a long time. I received one hen I was 14 years old and I thought it had horrible recoil even with a good recoil pad. We also at that time had a guy in our hunting party we called "Big One"that shot a 338 Win Mag. when I was 17 I was spending the summer with my uncle that was a gunsmith and "Big One" asked me to take the 338 with me to see what my uncle could do with the recoil as it got "scope eye" every time he shot it. My uncle lived on 40 acres at the time so we took the 338 and my 7mm behind the house to check them out. He shot the 338 twice and said "that's pretty bad" but he didn't get scoped. So I volunteered to give it a try. I shot it once, looked at my uncle and said "I'll trade him my 7 mm for that 338". My uncle asked why and I said "because the 7 kicks more" My uncle shot my 7mm once, my rifle fell and his shoulder was limp. It had dislocated his shoulder. His response on the way to the E.R. was, "Sell that D**n thing". I would not shoot a 7mm Mag again until I was 60 years old and it was then I realized that stock and rifle design make all the difference in recoil.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Gun Sales
« on: March 01, 2018, 09:03:08 AM »
That's funny. AR sales are through the roof right now and supply is way down (glad I got mine right away). As big as I am on the 2nd A, I actually wouldn't be opposed to the 21 age requirement, as long as military and police are exempt. A lot of 18 year olds these days haven't grown up yet, exacerbated by the wimpy, coddling, pussy-fied world they live in (thanks to lefties).

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 300Wby vs 300Win Mag
« on: March 01, 2018, 07:17:47 AM »
I have had both and still have a 300 Weatherby. I was wanting to buy the 70th anniversary Vanguard when it came out but wallet and timing don't always line up. Just this month for Valentines day my wife let me buy a NIB 70th anniversary Vanguard. I am not a big guy bu not small either. I have bursitis in both shoulders and that is why I no longer have the 300 win Mag. The stock on the new 300 Wby. was way too short for me so I added a limb saver slip on pad. Length is just perfect for me now. I took it to the range and tried the hunting loads I had worked up for my previous 300 Wby. using 150, 165, and 180 grain Nosler bullets. As stated the books say there is a 5 pound difference in recoil between the 300 Win Mag and the Bee, but the felt recoil is not much different than that of my 280 Ackley or Vanguard 7mm Rem Mag. As a matter of fact my wife likes it better than my Vanguard 7mm Rem Mag. The recoil is not less, just that the way the stock fits us makes it feel less. I have found that some rifle stocks and I just don't match and when they don't felt recoil is a major difference.

Attached is a link from this forum from 2013 where it appears to have satisfied the OP's question which was basically the same as your's. Hope this helps. http://weatherbynation.com/index.php?topic=10442.15

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Hunting Traditions
« on: February 27, 2018, 07:12:43 AM »
Thank you ALL for sharing. Your experiences and ability to share them are truly a blessing. Your willingness to share them with us is OUR blessing.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: We all have stories......
« on: February 20, 2018, 08:05:17 AM »
Back in the mid sixties I was about 14-15 when our group of 5 family members, my uncle, cousin, brother, and father went on a doe hunt. I had to use a borrowed Marlin 30-30 and half a box of shells, from my uncle and the area we were hunting was sage brush flats with some aspens along the river. We had hunted this area the previous 2 years and I knew that the shots could be pretty long for me. My zone was maximum 150 yards (city kid and no place to shoot). Being 14 I mouthed off, "I could probably do better by throwing rocks". The next morning as we came over a small hill there were 3 does standing about halfway down the hill about 250 yards away according to my dad. I was to shoot at the one on the left and my brother the one on the right and my cousin the middle one. I was told to "Hold a little high on the shoulder.
We all shot on 3. I hit mine just below the elbow, my brother and cousin missed. The sun was behind us and the deer did not see us and they started side hilling and slightly down towards a dry creek bed. My dad told me "Better get after that one, you wounded it you have to finish it". So I started running to intercept and every now and then when I had a clear shot I would sit and fire again. The doe and I got to the creek bed about the same time with me about 50 yards to the left of her with her headed my way. I hid next to a fairly good sized tree and waited. Shortly later I heard her coming down the creek. When she stepped out at what I thought was about 50 feet, I shot again and she dropped. She laid there for a while and tried getting up.  I racked the lever again and "click" no ammo. She couldn't get back up because of the broken leg, but she could sure run on three. So I grabbed a stick about the size of a hefty baseball bat and was hitting her in the back of the head. It would knock here down and she tried to get back up. When my uncle and cousin finally showed up to help they just started laughing so hard it took them a while to get calm enough to put her out of her misery. They both commented that a rock would have had more range than the stick. The only wounds she had were the one below the elbow and the finishing shot. It was decided that an iron sighted 30-30 and an inexperienced 14 year old do not make a good combination for open area hunting. Seeing as i had my deer and there was no more ammo for the 30-30 I was the designated "Stick Bearer" with that bat sized stick for the next 4 days. My next birthday my dad gave me a new deer rifle and I used it for the next 15 years.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Wyoming Mother-in-law IRS
« on: February 18, 2018, 04:20:28 PM »
Sometimes you never know what the good Lord has in plan. My  mother in law and I had a real rocky start (30 + years) but in 2015 she and I had a chance to sit down and really talk. We soon became the best of friends. She passed this past Thursday at almost 95 years old, and yes the past few years more than made up for the previous 30.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Brain cramp
« on: February 14, 2018, 10:49:13 AM »
Very glad that you weren't seriously hurt.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 7 mm on 300 weatherby
« on: February 09, 2018, 04:42:05 PM »
I know lots of people that would love to "make do" with a Mark V 300 Wby. :D :D

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 7 mm on 300 weatherby
« on: February 09, 2018, 09:27:51 AM »
I have no personal experience with this, but here is a link from Nosler forum in 2012 that might give you a starting point. https://forum.nosler.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20568

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Weatherby's move
« on: February 08, 2018, 06:58:38 PM »
As for the media, as Edgar Allen Poe said "believe none of what you hear and half of what you see"

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