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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: First Elk, 340
« on: Yesterday at 08:12:19 PM »
Very nice, good luck with the goats.

Rifles / Re: New .257 WM Mark V
« on: Yesterday at 07:52:04 PM »
Got the Tally standard permanent rings and standard magnum bases from Weatherby today. Very fast shipping I might add.. Also got my T Shirt, soft case, sling and Jacket. Yeah, I just had to have those.. LOL.. I was a little leery when I ordered the low rings for my 30mm Swarovski X5 but they worked perfectly. I'm satisfied with the distance of my scope from the barrel. I like it as close as I can get it. The Rifle truly is downright purdy… I'm going to try to get out behind the house and get it broke in this weekend.

Ammo / Re: Hornady Outfitter
« on: October 18, 2018, 11:27:07 AM »
Another ammo offering from Hornady.

Thanks, I like the ELD-X myself but I think I'll give these a try. They might give the Barnes TTSX bullets a run for their money.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Shooting Sticks or Bipod
« on: October 18, 2018, 08:30:23 AM »
I'm inclined to agree with the guys about carrying extra crap around all day. One thing a lot of people overlook is the value of a sling used properly (around the supporting arm) to steady the rifle substantially over casual offhand. Any of ya'll who served in the Marine Corps were most likely trained in this practice. I do it and it helps a lot.

Agree, that's the way I was taught when I was on my high school (military academy) shooting team. I did that during boot camp too and saved my company commander from an embarrassing loss to his buddy. If you know how to do it, you'll take that stiff but pretty sling and oil and work it over a 2x4 for hours to make is super soft and supple. Once done, a proper wrap over your hard can be achieved and you can make that rifle feel like it's glued to your body and can often see your heartbeat in the reticle. Webbed slings make it easy but they're ugly on a Weatherby.

My thoughts are that when Ford contacted Feinstein, the senator felt there was enough of a coincidence factor to move forward with coaching Ford on how to be a credible con artist. Ford was able to testify so convincingly because she never had to lie. She presented no facts that substantiated her testimony but instead used the sympathy of the #metoo movement to bolster her claims. If I was a woman who was truly sexually assaulted I would be very upset at being duped by Feinstein.

In my honest opinion, I feel that Kavanaugh would be doing a disservice to his country if he did not hire an attourney to move forward with civil defamation suit against Feinstein and Ford. It would be interesting if he ended up getting some of Soros's money too.

Rifles / Re: Weatherby Vangard H bar HELP
« on: October 18, 2018, 08:04:11 AM »
Hello, I have a vangard H bar in 308, I cannot put more than 1 shell into the magazine, it seems like the plastic follower is jamming against the front of the box and the spring will not compress.If I pull the bottom of the spring a 1/4 inch back from locking in the bottom of the floor plate everything loads as it should please advise .
Thanks Brett

Brett, as long as the floor plate is still attached to the spring you're good to go. I have a Vanguard .308 that I put a Howa 1500 Floor plate on and now use 5 and 10 round mags with it. I just looked at the original and the spring is about 1/4" back from fully seated. It fed fine like that before the change over so I think you'll be ok if you leave it back a little.

Rifles / Re: New .257 WM Mark V
« on: October 18, 2018, 07:59:58 AM »
Thanks everyone, I'm waiting on Weatherby branded bases and rings then I'll get it out and break it in.

Rifles / Re: Anyone had an out of the box MK V
« on: October 18, 2018, 07:55:24 AM »
I have a resurrected 1960's German .257 Mark that still shoots well even though it's badly shot out. It does keyhole at 100 yards so I no longer feel it's a good hunting rifle and have retired it. I have a fresh, out of the box Paso Robles, Made in USA .257 Mark V that's waiting for Weatherby branded bases and rings. It will have a Swarovski VX5 on it and will get a proper Weatherby prescribed break in. I'll let you know how well it shoots after break in.

You might be wondering why I didn't rebarrel the 1960. It's because Weatherby no longer barrels these rifles with a #1 barrel. All new barrels are #2. This changes the rifle more than is acceptable to me. It also makes the original and the Boyds stock I just bought for it unusable without a fair amount of inleting which I can do but have decided not to.

I have 3 Diamond Backs and have come to really like them. The price point is excellent and they perform every bit as well as my Leupolds. In conversation with the local dealer he stressed the great customer support and felt that in time they would outpace Leupold sales. Leupold has held the mid range scope slot for years but they may be loosing it to Vortex provided Vortex can keep up with demand. If you haven't bought one yet I would have no problem recommending the Diamondback Hunting series.

first 20 shots ,clean after each shot ,I use 7.62 sweets, gets everything out,after 20 shots, shoot 10-4 shot groups,clean after each 4 shot group, after 10 - 4 shot groups, shoot 20- 4 shot groups, clean after each group, when done this whole procedure, consider barrel broken in, I have 7 diff weatherby rifles, ive done this to each one, every rifle I own shoots 3/4 group or less, this really works, gd luck

Why not follow Weatherby's recommended break in procedures? I would have to think that if your rifle doesn't shoot well and you send it in, they are probably going to ask you if you used their recommended break in procedures. I would like to be able to honestly say yes to the question if it came and eliminate any reason for them to reject my claim. Not that they would since Weatherby support is darn good.

I stained with a dark walnut oil based stain. I only wanted to accent the figuring so I wiped it on with a balled up rag and then removed the excess within a few minutes. I used Minwax Helmsman Spar Urethane as my finish. I put 10 light coats on then sanded with 4000 Wet/Dry sand paper and then 3 normal coats and let it dry for 24 hours. You will need to repeat that last process several times until you have filled in all the grain variances. My choice of finishes was because I wanted a finish that was durable in an outdoor environment. The Helmsman will cause the white spacers to yellow slightly but if it's any consolation, my new Deluxe has the same yellowing so perhaps Weatherby is using a similar product.

I've attached a photo of my finished stock. My checkering had been abused by the previous owners attempt at refinishing so it's not as sharp as yours.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Accuracy Enough is Enough
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:16:34 AM »
I hear you on the Flyers Zonie. This flyer today drove me crazy. This is the rifle this postbis about too boot. Normaly with hunting rifles I only shoot 3 shot groups. But today I made A exception. After 2 same hole shots in comes the flyer followed by two more same hole shots. Making A 7/16" group A 1 7/8" group. But this is the best load. So im sticking with it. 77 grs. IMR 7828  with 180 gr. Partition.

I wonder if that's a warm/hot barrel issue. Just thinking aloud maybe.

Rifles / New .257 WM Mark V
« on: October 15, 2018, 11:30:10 AM »
So the sad saga of the Gun Show 1960 257 WM Mark V is over. That rifle is now retired being returned to original condition and then hung above my mantle (I don't use the fireplace).

The new rifle arrived last week while I was fishing Pyramid Lake, Nevada so I took a day off from fishing and went into Reno to pick it up. The new rifle seems heavier with the #2 Barrel and the stock is stouter but there is a remarkable likeness in the figuring and looks a lot like the original rifle after I refinished the stock. I was pleasantly surprised to see that this one is marked "Made in USA". Not that this is anything wonderfully better but it's just nice to see.

I've attached pics of the new rifle.

Elk / Re: what to zero 300 weatherby for elk out to 400
« on: October 15, 2018, 11:08:53 AM »
I zero my 300's in at 3 inches high @ 100 yards. Depending on the speed of your ammo, that would put you close to zero @ 300 yards and about 8-9 inches low @ 400 yards. Elk have an approx., kill zone of 20 -24 inches, so that sight in will put a bullet in the kill zone out to 400 yards nicely. But, practice shooting out to those ranges, and see what your ammo is doing.


Completely agree with this strategy.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Rechambering to a 224
« on: October 07, 2018, 05:57:54 AM »
The title to this post says rechamberinng

Take your victory lap if need be.. I admitted I was wrong, what more do you want Nancy.

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