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With all due respect to the late Jack O'Connor.... what do you all think the hunting limits are of the venerable 270 Win.?  Obviously deer are a no brainer, but how big can you get?  I know an old Adirondack guide I knew a few years back hunted Maine moose and shot two with a 270 Win.  I always thought that was asking a lot from that round. 

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Happy Sunday y'all! I have to preface the topic that way, because sometimes I think when we discuss non Weatherby firearms some folks get objectionable.  Although I will ask for a pass on the because it's about a semi-auto centerfire (not a black gun either).  This is one of the few online forums that is worth its weight in salt so I figured I'd put this out there.....

My local shop cals me a week ago, he's got a 1970 Mk I, Grade II 30-06. Rifle is 95% plus. I am a sucker for old BAR's.  This will be my second Mk I.   Has Leopold B & R installed, and old Bushnell scope which is destined for the trash. I will replace with a Leopold. The original magazine is in the rifle (glad its there but I have plenty of spares as well). It has one speck of rest, not through the steel, on the forward part of the receiver where the barrel threads in on the left side of the slab. It's smaller than a rifle primer in diameter, and I know I can cold blued it out. The scroll engraving on the receiver slabs are still sharp. The action cycles well, feeds, extracts and ejects with authority (snappers only at this point). The rifling is deep and sharp with no muzzle wear and the wood is perfect. He let me get my hands on it for $700. I'd estimate round count as being no more than a couple of hundred in it lifetime.  Naturally I jumped at it. Similar guns on line in that shape are all north of $1,000. This will make #2 in the collection of Mk I's, the other is a 1968 Grade 1. I should have her home this week coming. I just need to make time to get there.

I will replace the action spring and buffer just cause they are 40 plus years old. That's been ordered from gunparts.com already. I have been hearing that in these old late 60's early 70's Mk I's Browning chromed the piston but not the gas cylinder and that can become a fail point in some guns. Most guy's from, what I hear wrap oiled fine (000) steel wool or emory cloths around around a wood dowel and use that to pull any grit and early rough spots out of the cylinder. Some guys use Flitz compound on patches and polish with that, then flush it out with a good solvent like #9. That all makes sense and I will do that the next time I have my Mk I's apart.

My question is after I do that, what can I use to condition the steel inside the cylinder? Is a light oil or a teflon infused gun oil okay (Hopes T3 Elite)? My guess is that it has to withstand high temperatures without gumming up. Would a gun grease work inside the cylinder? Again, I'm looking to help preserve and condition the metal. Thoughts and wisdom always appreciated.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / new 700 7mm mag
« on: August 15, 2016, 07:11:46 AM »
Just a quick question.  I've glass bedded actions before and its a bit labor intensive although the pay off is worth it.  I was thinking about just pillar bedding the 700 BDL I just got.  Ernie the Gunsmith online has a set of pillars pre fit for 700's (or so the website says).  Anything really difficult to install these?  I'm guessing just overbore the actions holes however much needed to set the pillars.  Seat the pillars with 2 part epoxy and let dry, then in a day or two put the thing back together.  Am I over simplifying this?   

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Dad's old 7400
« on: August 15, 2016, 07:07:09 AM »
My Dad who is now in the happy hunting ground, only used iron sights until his eyes went.  In fact he hunted the vast majority of the time with a 1903 Springfield that made its way back from the European Theatre of Operations with him in 1945,.... somehow!!!!  Anyways as he got older in about 1985 he treated himself to a Remmy 7400 in 30-06 that he bought at JC Penny of all places. He put a 4x Weaver on it and got used to using glass. That rifle served him well until his knees went and he stopped hunting in the late 1990's.  I have the 7400 now and I guess, over time, the forend wood dried out more and more.  Now it seems to have developed a bit of wiggle where it mates up with the action.  Other than annoying me it doesn't affect the performance.  I don't know what can be done about it.  For a semi the thing will cold barrel group 1.5"s for about four shots (with only 180 grain ammo) then it gets really messy!  It would be nice to fix this issue if possible.  Any ideas appreciated. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Winchester Power Max Bonded
« on: August 12, 2016, 04:51:05 PM »

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Barack and the Devil
« on: August 07, 2016, 06:45:11 AM »
Barack moves onto the next dimension and finds himself mist brimstone and fire instead to the pearly gates.... Imagine.  All with that old Scratch himself comes soaring across the lake of fire and greets Barack.  He says "Mr. President Hell's about all filled up at the moment.  But we do have a wing dedicated to great politicians such as yourself.  Allow me to show you some options on where you can spend the rest of eternity." 

With that the devil takes Obama down a long hallway full of doors.  Opening the first one he sees Al Gore with a sledge hammer pounding away at the foot of the Rocky Mountains.  He's covered in sweat and has bloody hands, for all of eternity Gore will have to try to make the mountains into gravel.  Barack says, "...ummm devil this looks too harsh for me, you have anything else?"

They open the next door and inside is Jimmy Carter pushing a mule-less plow across a peanut filed that stretches onto the horizon.  Its under a hot and pasty South Georgia sun.  Sweat is dipping everywhere.  he's ankle deep in mud, and mosquitos are biting away at him.  "Oh no Devil, Barack says, I know nothing of farming and couldn't possibly spend the rest of time doing this.  Is there one more option?"

They open the next door and there is the Oval Office, Bill Clinton is on the couch with a cigar in one hand and a glass of rye in the other.  His pants are around his ankles on between is legs is Monica Lewinsky doing what she does best.  Barack looks at the devil and says, "Michelle will I'm sure understand, but devil yes, yes, yes, this is where I should spend the rest of all time!"  The devil asks if he's certain.  Barack insists that it is.  With that the devil walks into he room  takes Monica's arm, and says "...okay Monica your time is done here, Barack get on your knees!"

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These are what I have in contention and your thoughts are also appreciated.  It will be a top a 7mm Rem Mag bolt action.The goal is to be under $300.

1- Burris Fullfield E1 Illuminated 3-9x40 (like the second focal plane reticle feature of this, don't like the modern looks)
2- Leupold VX-1 3-9x40 Long Range Plex (classic look, I own 2 of them and they are awesome glass)
3- Nikon Monarch 3, 2.5 - 10x42 BDC (have 2 of the older Monarch UCC's, also solid scopes. One is on a Weatherby)
4- Zeiss Terra, 3-9x42  R6 Plex (I have this scope with the Z-Plex on a Mk I BAR 30-06, great hunting glass)

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Game limits of 7mm Mags
« on: July 28, 2016, 06:21:44 PM »
Hey I have two offers pending on two different rifles.  One is a 7mm Rem mag 700 BDL, the other is a Mk V Dlx 24" in 7mm Roy.  I can only swing one for now.  I'm mostly hunting whitetails, good size deer, but whitetails none the less ranges anywhere from 150 yrs to 400 yds.  The BDL is new/old stock gun and 1/2 the price of the Mk V.  I know this a Weatherby site, but I'm curious about your opinions on this.  Thanks.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / 270 Win and Black Bear
« on: July 17, 2016, 04:35:13 PM »
Anyone consider using 270 Win for eastern black bear.  If so suggestions on loadings, or even factory loads that would do.  Mature bears in the camp I was invited to hunt average 300 to 350 live weight.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / getting rid of copper
« on: July 17, 2016, 06:41:08 AM »
Anyone have any experience with Tetra Copper Solvent?  I have a few rifles that are overdue with copper!

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Rifles / Mk V ALASKAN
« on: July 16, 2016, 07:19:29 AM »
Hi guys!  It's been a while since I've been online.  How have you all been doing?  Had a question, anyone know anything about a Mk V. Alaskan?  Buy or avoid,..... would I be better off looking for another Vanny S1 SubMOA?  Thoughts and wisdom always appreciated. 

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Hey there fellas- been and on and off for a while, I hope everyone is doing well?  I'm setting up a 243 20" rifle (bolt action) as a handy mountain deer and 'yote rifle.  I'm seriously thinking about a 2-7 x 32 MM Nikon Prostaff on it.  I really don't anticipate shooting past 100 yds with it in the field.  My other choice is a 2-7x 32 Leopold VX II (already own that one but it's being repaired by Leopold at the moment because I wasn't focusing).  Anyway, what do you think about the idea? 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / New old S1 Vanny SubMOA 30-06
« on: September 28, 2014, 04:21:53 AM »
Some updates. I finished my stock paint job on the blued S1 Vanny SubMOA. Brown with Webbing now. It looks awesome and much better for the mixed hardwoods we hunt in the east. I put a Timney trigger in it. I went with a DNZ Game Reaper mount and a Burris Optics C4 Plus 30-06 scope. I've had no time to develop a load for it so I plan to use factory Federal Fusion 150 grs. I took it up to club land Friday. After I got it on paper I had 5 shots cutting the same hole at 100 yds. I think she's gonna do just fine. I have to admit shooting this new one side by side with my original S1 Vanny SubMOA (which is 270 WSM) was pretty awesome. I'd say I made out great in the trade. I got a great rifle that is a shooter and was new in the box in some guys safe in Texas for an older rifle that was nice but in a caliber t he was interested in and I wasn't. It was a good trade and the guy turned out to be rock solid.

While at the club I put my cameras in Friday afternoon I had two different big 8's in both cameras.  I swapped the SD cards on Saturday afternoon before I left for the two hour drive home.  One buck I named Knockers because he's on club land that boarders a Jehovah's Witness commune (no disrespect intended). Knockers looks to be about 5 1/2 and he's a tank. He's only gonna get bigger as the fall gets cooler. Come on November.

The others were all respectable shooters but nothing like Knockers. Both of these spots are good ambush locations for treestands (climbers). They are funnels in the dark timber between fields. With favorable wind for stand placement and high meadow access to get in quick and quietly.

I will post pics of him when the Trophy Room is de spammed.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Posting pics to the trophy room
« on: September 13, 2014, 03:22:57 AM »
Why is this feature disabled?  The error message says because of spammers. The trophy rooms were a way for all of us to share stuff. Seems like Weatherby Nation tossed the baby out with the bath water on this fix.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Secon SubMOA Creepy Trigger
« on: September 12, 2014, 08:57:44 AM »
Hi- there, so the second S1 SubMOA has a little creep to the trigger.  It's actually weird because sometimes I can't notice it at all, other times it's obvious.  I know from my gunsmith its the screw on the rear of the trigger assembly.  Has anyone ever done the adjustment themselves?  I can't see this being a big issue?  The further in the screw is turned the crisper the break will be because there is less creep.  I get it that there is a such thing as negating the sear adjustment by turning the screw in too far,

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