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This last years Deer and Elk hunts were a disaster,  Hunted Kaibab 12Aw early Deer hunt ,  seen little bambi's almost every day little stuff nothing worth shooting.  Way too many people, previous fires moved the Deer out, even the local loggers were not seeing Deer in any numbers and we didn't see any big ones and we were up there before opening day and left the day before closing hunting non- stop from way before daylight and getting back after dark each day, and we covered most of the whole unit.  Guys I talked with said they would never hunt this early hunt again and I agree.   Our Bull Elk hunt was even worst Unit 9 later hunt,  again too many hunters ,  hunted every day except the  last day afternoon.   Elk in small numbers seen a few nothing we could get on, same thing up before daylight and back after dark and I only seen one Bull that was taken a nicer Bull to be honest we knew going in it was going to be a hard hunt,  weather was warm,   It wasn't hard there just wasn't Elk,  a few and that was it and we covered the whole unit with the exception of the far western boundry in the open flats which we could see.   I will never hunt this unit again either.  I think if it had snowed a lot it would have pushed the elk into the unit. Hell we got bigger and far more Elk where I live, so there isn't a need for me to travel.
Now for the bad part we lost my son's old 1 ton diesel truck and my 18 ft hunting trailer in an accident the trailer got away from him and jack knifed on the freeway in front of a semi and got hit ,  I was behind him in my 3/4 ton Dodge truck  towing a car hauler trailer with my sxs Honda 1000-5.  I got out of the way and stopped up the freeway a few hundred yds , I honestly thought it killed him , but he walked away without a scratch,  no one was hurt in any vehicle,  his truck wasn't as badly hurt as we first thought , bent frame, front clip  are toast, the trailer is going to be crushed at the metal yard.  trailer tagged the steel flat bed on my son's truck and pretty much destroyed the trailer in the process another semi clipped the side of the trailer not as bad as I thought in any case neither are going to be replaced were't worth any money anyway.  AZ  Highway patrol and tow company were absolutely great,   first class and professional all the way.   Anyway not going to buy another trailer for hunting  I'm getting too old and trailers too expensive especially for Toy Haulers I wouldn't get the use out of it,  so we are either going to hunt out of our house locally,  buy a new tent (I have an old one which is pretty ragged) or stay in a motel and have a hot shower and TV.  Probably a lot cheaper to just stay in motels than buying new gear.  I did pull the 4 burner propane stove/oven out of the trailer  the next day and later  built a short stand for it with little pots and pans storage and 3/8" plywood  wind break for outside or tent cooking came out very nice. will hold a 20 pound turkey in the oven along with baking pies and biscuits and such.  My Dad had one and was the camp cook for the younger guys so I got the idea from what he had.   I was actually looking at a 16 ft poly canvas Bell type tent with stove jack,   4 season  tents easier to put up and won't mildew so bad as Army canvas and a little lighter weight  to move around and set up.  I'm seeing a lot more of these Bell Tents locally in long term hunt camps so they must be pretty decent tents.  I would go with a Kodiak / Spring Bar 10 x 14 but I think it's a little small for us, and doesn't have a stove jack.   Wall tent would be nice for 2 guy's to set up maybe 13 x 16 or there about's nothing smaller.  Wall tents just for me to set up are a pain  especially in bad weather.  I'm looking for easier / faster  set-up.  We have a pretty decent 13 x 13 shade canopy we can  tarp the  sides on and  cook in with 2 larger wooden portable heavy duty tables for cooking stuff, works real well when anchored down with re-bar stakes and good rope   in the wind.   We are going to tow an 18 ft  car hauler trailer with Honda sxs behind  the truck the trailer is also set-up with a chest freezer on the front ran by a generator to keep any boned out meat from spoiling in our AZ heat.  Generator had frame damage in the accident my son thinks he can build a new frame  for it I don't know. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Off to Kaibab Deer hunting
« on: October 21, 2021, 08:56:11 AM »
My son and I are leaving this morning for our deer hunt in Arizona  North Kaibab 12AW .   We both have Muley tags,  we may stay for the next 10 fays depending upon what we see,  son is taking his Weatherby nation Members 257 Wby and I'll be using my 300 Wby,  with another 300 Wby as a spare.  Normally I would not  take this large of a caliber the deer are big and   possible long shots so what the hell.  We both have Mtn Lion tags  and we have seen them on prior hunts in this area.  I think it will be a mad house for thru the weekend and then settle down next Tusday or Wednesday after most people have gone home.  Not cold enough right now to move them off the plateau to migrate to lower elevations so we will hunt high at first and cruise around and look at different areas anyway got to go now son just started his diesel.

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Just got back from Ca bottom fishing rented the whole boat for a couple  of day  trips,  no over night trips  covid restrictions.  22 of us were suppose to go I think 19 showed up.  great fishing my son and I came home with around 70 + pounds of good filets between the 2 of us.   Getting the canning pressure cookers ready for the up coming hunts my son and I leaving next week for an Early Kaibab Deer hunt north rim of the Grand Canyon,  and a month later we both are hunting Bull Elk just south of the south rim of the Grand Canyon,   big bulls hard to hunt if we get one I'll be happy.  Bought an extra 10 dozen pints and quarts jars and and roughly 300 lids and a few rings.  Might have to break out my mom's old pressure cooker,  I really don't like using that one.   My son won't can his deer or elk we will butcher them and  get a couple vacuum sealers going on his game.   We will pressure can most of  mine it just stays longer and I like the taste you can shred it and make tomales, great taco's, & burritos,  really good beef stew or you can snack on it right out of the jar.    Every now and then I'll can some fish generally the worst tasting fish I'll can, trout comes out like rich Salmon Patties.  Next time I Tuna Fish it's all getting canned except for some I'll give away to friends who like Ahi.  Other fishes like Dorado and Wahoo  we filet or steak out.   My wife has been in a canning mode lately Hatch Green chili's ,  sweet potatoes,  green beans,  green chili salsa. 

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One way to increase bullet fps performance is to increase barrel length.  I'd like to see Weatherby come out with a short falling block action with a lightweight carbon wrapped barrel in about 30 "  and still keep the overall rifle length down vs a typical bolt action which are long to begin with.   Mark V's have been around for a long time and they're great,  but I think we need to  look out side the box for something new.  Long range shooters typically  don't cycle the action very fast anyway but they do like bullets with high bc's and more fps isn't a bad thing either. 

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We were talking about what we got drawn for this year results just came out for Arizona  Fall Deer.  My son and I were both drawn for  Arizona 12AW  Kaibab early  Mule Deer hunt which is a good thing because we were both Drawn for Unit 9 Bull Elk late hunt.

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We had a discussion awhile back as to where New Weatherby ammo was being made,  we were looking at the new Boxes and nothing said it was made in Sweden by Norma so the question came up where is the new Weatherby ammo actually made ?   I called Weatherby this morning and the good customer service people at Weatherby said nothing is made by Norma anymore.  ALL new ammo is loaded in the USA and I'm assuming @ Weatherby,  Brass is a mixture of Hornady and Peterson,  Bullets of course are listed,  Powders are Proprietary and no information is given out.    I sure like the Norma brass I've found it lasts quite a long time 15 or so re-loadings in our 257's and that's a pretty hot load.   The Norma Brass in our 300's out lasts Remington brass .  Hornady Brass in my other calibers has been quite good,  Peterson Brass I don't know anything about must be pretty good.   I hope that Weatherby's new brass suppliers  brass will last  for many re-loadings, I'm sure it will.     I would be curious as to what cartridge brass is made by Hornady and what cases are made by Peterson.

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We were talking about endo/bore scopes and the bore snake came up in the conversation so I did  a little reading on these new little flexible shaft bore scopes.  I nixed the bore snake because I wanted a 90 degree camera and ended up buying on E bay a Teslong NGT100 V2 ,  0.2 " diameter with a 48 " cable.  We were talking about having a unit that came with it's own screen as not to go thru the hassle of trying to figure out how to download the apps to make the non screen bore scope versions work on your computer and android phones.  So I pulled the trigger and bought the non screen version because it was cheaper and I didn't want to throw away money on something I didn't like. Boy was I surprised  it was simple to set up for a non computer person like myself.  plugged in the borescopes USB  my computer with USB 3.0 ports and windows 10.  Instructions with the unit are pretty basic.  Now it's loaded on my computer and when I get the nerve I'm going to install it on my Andriod Phone or have some one better with these new phones help me out.  I don't think this unit is set up for I Phones yet maybe I wrong.  Anyway I thought my 300 wby was copper fouling clean as a whistle,  I don't think so I could plainly see the fouling in the bore,   not much copper but enough to see I was not getting 100 percent of the copper out either.  Some heat checking in the throat area and some other not so good metal heat fatigued.   It's a little hard to get use to a flexible shaft instead of the rigid types, but for 58 bucks I can live with it. 

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