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Went to a Bergara shoot summer 2017 about 45min up the road from my house. Nice old farm converted to sporting clays and long range shooting. Had a lot of fun, and shot a half a dozen different B14 variants wearing everything from Vortex to Zeiss to Swaro to Leica glass, at ranges from 200-1000yds. If that rifle shoots anything like the ones I handled (which were factory stuff, as I saw the break the seal on a couple and mount scopes), you will be very pleased.

Whitetail Deer / Re: Best caliber for whitetail
« on: November 05, 2018, 07:56:13 PM »
Rob is spot-on. The 270Wby is just a scorcher faster and flatter than the 257, when comparing equal weight for caliber bullets. If you get one, you won't regret it. The white-tails in northern Alabama where I hunt hate my 270Wby.

Rifles / Re: Barrel twist rate
« on: November 05, 2018, 06:37:51 AM »
If you have any doubts, use a tight-fitting patch and jag (not too tight, but snug) and count the length it takes for your cleaning rod to make one rotation as you push the jag down the bore.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Gun Identification
« on: November 04, 2018, 09:16:13 PM »
That Prostaff was about $150 brand new. Figure it loses half its value immediately upon being mounted the first time (as a cheap scope, no offense - I have some comparable ones) and figure on a used rifle, with no history known, it loses another half, you could generously value it at about $38. I'd assign a zero to it, just because it might be good, but it might be crap. And it's not a higher end brand which will be readily replaced without a receipt, I suspect, which might command a higher percentage of it's original retail value (such as a Zeiss, Swaro, or such)

Yes, the Vanguard was made in 270Wby back in the early years of the Vanguard, I believe. It may have been as late as the late 80s, however. It was a fairly limited run and the rifles are relatively rare these days. Not rare enough to be super valuable or anything, but nice rifles with some uniqueness.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Gun Identification
« on: November 02, 2018, 10:57:21 AM »
Looks like a Vanguard Sporter. From the best look I can get at the safety lever, appears to be the original, rather than the current S2 variant. Production probably in the late 1990s or the 2000s, but that's just a guess. Value is subjective, but figure something like $400-650, depending on how badly someone wants it.

Rifles / Re: I will never ever buy a weatherby product again.
« on: October 30, 2018, 08:48:23 PM »
And, once again we find the reality isn't nearly what the haters want folks to believe. Does Weatherby occasionally drop the ball? I bet they do. But I'd also bet they are better at not doing so, and at picking up their own fumbles, than just about any other firearms company. I've spent time dealing with Remington, Browning, Winchester, Glock, Smith & Wesson, CZ, Beretta, and Colt over the years, in addition to Weatherby. Only CZ comes close in taking care of folks, IMO.

Couple of things:

1. The Mark V barrel has been made by Criterion for at least a couple of decades.

2. The Mark V has been contracted to several groups over time. As of now, the action is likely forged at a foundry contracted by Weatherby. Final machining and finishing is done in-house. I wonder if they'll install a foundry in Sheridan?

3. The Vanguard is built under contract by Howa, not Miroku. Of note is that Howa built the Mark V from 1972 until 1994.

For comparison, Miroku makes Browning rifles. Winchester rifles are built in a factory contracted in Portugal. Even Remington doesn't make all their own stocks.

Rifles / Re: New to Me Vanguard
« on: October 28, 2018, 08:42:08 AM »
A call to Weatherby would be your best option for learning whether your bolt is serviced or not.

Ammo / Re: Belted Vs Non Belted Cartridges
« on: October 28, 2018, 08:41:22 AM »
I hear this fairly frequently. My experience is that this entire idea is founded upon a potential minuscule difference, and relates far more to brass consistency than any other factor. What does this mean? It means that quality brass, in a carefully cut chamber, with or without a belt, is capable of excellent accuracy.  If everything is kept equal (which would be nearly impossible) a beltless round might have a very minuscule (think in terms of less than a tenth of a minute of angle) better accuracy potential, but even that is suspect. That the military has used and still uses the 300WinMag for sniper use confirms for me the idea is without much merit.

For all belted rounds, headspace occurs at the belt, technically. But that's for folks using factory ammo. For handloaders, we can adjust the sizing dies (using neck dies, shoulder bump dies, and FL size dies) to move the shoulder back .001-.002" from fired case measurements, creating a shoulder headspacing situation. At that point, in my specific rifle, with my specific handloads, headspacong occurs at the shoulder, not the belt.

Rifles / Re: New to Me Vanguard
« on: October 27, 2018, 09:48:31 AM »
First thing I'd check is whether or not your rifle's serial is on the bolt shroud recall list. Doubtful, but there are still some out there. Info is on Weatherby.com.

Second, as CJB said, clean it, get it put together correctly, and shoot it before you change anything. If you like it, don't mess with anything!

Rifles / Re: I will never ever buy a weatherby product again.
« on: October 27, 2018, 09:43:10 AM »
That's interesting. I emailed Adam Weatherby just a few weeks ago, and got a reply within 24hrs.

Good to hear. Would you mind providing the e-mail address that you used for Adam?

I contacted him via the direct email link on his profile here on this forum.

Rifles / Re: I will never ever buy a weatherby product again.
« on: October 25, 2018, 08:36:56 PM »
That's interesting. I emailed Adam Weatherby just a few weeks ago, and got a reply within 24hrs.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: ?
« on: October 25, 2018, 02:34:38 PM »

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: MK V ultra light 270 wby
« on: October 25, 2018, 04:20:18 AM »
In my not dmso humble opinion, that's the best all-around Weatherby clambering (or maybe just the best all-around chambering) for everything but the great bears, the African Big Five, and maybe a few of the largest hooved game around. For everything in North America aside from prairie dogs and the great bears, it is ideal. Mine is spectacular on white-tails, and I'd have zero qualms about taking miley's, elk, moose, or caribou with it, too.

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