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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: No serial number???
« on: March 11, 2019, 09:04:06 PM »
In the old Gun Digests of yesteryear, they would have a section in the middle, with several pages of some of the custom rifles turned out by the best custom builders in the business.  This rifle looks like one of those, from the fifties or sixties; built on a Mauser actin, really nice wood.  A slightly better than normal cartridge.  Your Grandpa had "grinning" and "braggin'  " rights when he was showing this rifle to his friends.  It is a very nice firearm.  See if that serial number is visible somewhere if you ever remove the action from the stock.  m

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Another Lawsuit
« on: March 03, 2019, 11:42:45 PM »
I can no longer find the article, but the other day, it was stated that over fifty people somehow effected by the horrible Church shooting a year or two ago, not far from San Antonio, are suing Academy Sports and Outdoors, where the firearm was sold to the nut.  I think that they are suing for a bit over a million for each one of them.  But herein lies a snafu.  According to the article, the person at the Academy store that did the sale, made a mistake.  The nut, stated on the form, that his residence was in Colorado.  THAT should have cancelled the sale right there.  The lawsuit states that the fellow should not have been sold the firearm, because he could not have acquired the AR-15 styled firearm in Colorado.  I am not familiar at all with Colorado firearms laws.  When the Academy called in to NICS to instant check the sale, the residency of the nut being in Colorado should have stopped the sale also.  SO, I see the store AS BEING negligent, but NICS screwed up also.  I see that Academy could be fined for the screw-up by the BATF, BUT the Government goofed too.  So, according to current thinking, there was no "intent" here by Academy or the NICS operator to screw up, they just screwed up.  So, are they libel for any of the death and heartaches.  I am glad I am not on that jury that will hear this.  I also think that a very slick lawyer researched this.  I also seem to remember at the time, that this nut, had a bunch of filed psychological problems, so NICS should not have approved the sale on THAT basis.  It is just a horrible, horrible situation for the family members of the victims.  At least the nut was shot dead, if you recall, by an armed citizen.  MM

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: The Constitution
« on: March 03, 2019, 11:11:40 PM »
Perfectly stated, Big Muddy.  Perfectly analysed, Dubyam.  MM

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Gun Shows
« on: February 24, 2019, 12:41:41 AM »
I had tables at gun shows for years.  As with everything, there were decent honest fellows with tables, and then there were always a few jackasses.  The main thing I liked was trying to buy or trade the guns off of the "walkers."  I usually went home with more guns than I took to the show.  Always changing the inventory.  There were two guys that I often had my table next to, that paid a little extra money to get the end tables right at the entrance.  These two guys liked guns, but they were there to make the fast nickel.  They would buy so many guns off of the walkers, and then flip them for fifteen to twenty bucks profit.  They would flip a lot of guns in a weekend.  My problem was, I would want or lust for my guns too much.  MM

I have used finger nail polish to mark many things, just consider wiping the area to be marked with a Q-rip with a little alcohol or lighter fluid to "degrease" it a little.  But, that may not really be necessary.  Speaking of the quick detach scope mounts, do any of you old timers remember back in the day, when scopes were still "new technology" and somewhat of a luxury.  So there was a mounting system that allowed you to use the same scope on different rifles.  I never personally had that system, but I remember seeing it often, and then later, I would see guns at gunshows that had that type of mount.  It had an odd brand name, but I guess it did what it was advertised to do.  The adjustment to zero the scope were in the mount bases.  The scope either had no internal adjustments, or you did not use the internal adjustments to sight it in; just the adjustments on the mounts.  That is how it was able to use the same scope on the different rifles.  The bases on each rifle, were adjusted to be sighted in, and you could move the scope from rifle to rifle.  I am going to say that this was in the '50's and up to the mid '60's.  I am not talking about the old Lyman and Unertl mounts that also offered the adjustments in the bases.  Some of those old target scopes were designed to "slide" in the rings and had a "spring" to absorb the recoil shock, as to not damage the delicate crosshairs inside.  I do not see how THAT worked, but that was the ultimate thing at the time, to have on your Swift or .222.  Some of those scopes were almost as long as the barrel.  MM

I guess that I am the odd man out here.  I see the UTILITY in having elephant skin on a rifle like that.  I have, or rather had, a couple pairs of elephant skin boots, and that leather is about as tough and scuff proof as it can get.  Big thorns, even mesquite thorns are not going to do much to that elephant leather.  Plus, the leather will deaden any noise from bumping the rifle into things.  Being leather, if that rifle is laying out in the African sun for a while, the stock will not be hot.  When "camo" duct tape became available, I would often use that to camo up a rifle and other outdoor items.  The only bad side to that, is the gooey sticky mess left from the adhesive on the duct tape.  But that does come off with some lemon oil.  American Indians would camo their bows by gluing tanned snake skins to the bow.  As I said, I am the odd man out here, but I think that it is cool.  MM

Well, what the anti's REFUSE to see in the Second Amendment are:  "the people," "AND BEAR" which means to carry on oneself, and finally, "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."  All of this crap that ALL of us have to go through to buy, to ship, and to carry a firearm, ARE ALL INFRINGEMENTS in my mind.  MM

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Deer disease
« on: February 14, 2019, 01:08:24 AM »
They were offering free testing options around here, last year for some disease.  I did not hear it mentioned this just past hunting season though.  This being in Central Texas.  MM

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Saami pressures
« on: February 14, 2019, 01:04:57 AM »
Both are rated at 65,000 but the area of the base of a .270, is somewhat less, than the area of the base of a .300 Weatherby.  Area increases significantly as diameter is increases, so the .300 Weatherby has a lot more "volume" of gas pushing against it's base, than the .270, although their pressure ratings are the same.  To make an exaggerated comparison, a road bike bicycle tire holds air at 100 or so PSI, give or take.  A tire on a semi holds air at around 100 PSI.  The tire rubber on a semi truck tire has to be a great deal thicker to contain the same air pressure, as the bicycle tire.  MM

I think that there is some misinformation here.  I had an FFL for twenty-one years, and finally gave it up when the NICS thing started, and I did not want to have to jack around with that.  At least until the NICS thing, when you legally bought a firearm from a licensed dealer, yes, you filled out the form, and your name became associated with the serial number, make, model, and caliber of that particular firearm.  But the Government NEVER got that information.  That information stayed with the FFL Dealer in their Bound Record Book, with the form in an adjacent file.  Let us say that someone bought a firearm legally from a licensed FFL dealer, and the firearm was a Ruger Blackhawk.  If at some point, that very Ruger Blackhawk was used in a crime and found by the LEO, that serial number would be run to Ruger, who would then look in their records as to which distributor it went.  Then that distributor would be contacted, and look it up and tell which dealer it was shipped to, and then that dealer would be contacted, and told to look it up in his Bound Book records, and let the LEO know who bought that Ruger from them, and would have the I.D. number and an address for whomever purchased it.  That is how that worked.  When the NICS thing started, the I.D. of the potential buyer was called in to the Feds, and they would look up if that person could legally own a firearm.  Supposedly, the Feds do not record the firearm make, model, Serial number when you are called in to NICS.  That is a big question, but unless they have changed the law recently, the NICS check only verifies if the purchaser can legally own a firearm, nothing more.  If, the person that bought the Ruger Blackhawk previously mentioned has that gun stolen, and reports it to the LEO agency, THEN the LEO would have a record that that firearm belongs to so and so, and it has been reported stolen.  I buddy of mine had a gun stolen perhaps fifteen years ago, and last year was notified, that his pistol had been picked up in a drug raid.  It was returned to him after it was no longer considered evidence in the raid, and all he had to do was go and sign for it, and show I.D.  Any gun that comes into a pawn shop, is supposed to have it's numbers run with LEO to see if that gun was stolen.  If it had been used in a crime, it would already be with the LEO, unless someone stole it from the LEO agency.  I would think that any dealer that takes in a used gun, would also verify with LEO, if that firearm has been reported stolen.  That is why many dealers take all of your I.D. info if you sell them a used gun.  If it turns up as stolen, they will have to give it to the LEO agency, and they will tell them whom they bought it from.  With concealed carry permits in Texas, unless they have changed the law, if you qualify for the the license with a revolver, then you can only legally carry a revolver, and you can carry any revolver that you legally own.  If you qualify with a semi-auto pistol, then you can legally carry a semi-auto, or a revolver, any of which you own legally.  Who would be dumb enough to go through all of the hoops to get a concealed carry license, and then have an illegal pistol.  They would be locked up instantly.  Unless they have changed the law, there is not a specific firearm that you have to carry, except for the revolver situation.  This being in Texas, and this, unless they have changed the law.  Other States may have far more restrictions, and REQUIRE a serial number on the license itself.  Also, I saw on the Internet, that you can buy a "permit" to carry concealed over the Internet from one state, and because of reciprocity between states on CC licenses, this will allow you to carry in other states.  I called a friend of mine that teaches the CHL course in Texas, and he said that the keyword here, is that it is a "permit," which is different than a "license," and he thinks that it is a scam, and would not trust it.  Back to the FFL Dealer.  When an FFL dealer gives up his license, he "is asked" to send in the Bound Book, and all of his forms that have all of the buyer information.  These go to the ATF, and are filed and stashed away somewhere, and supposedly are never looked at, unless a reverse trace is run on a firearm and it comes up as going to Joe's Guns, who gave up his license in January of 1995, and his records are stored in Warehouse #768, etc., etc.  There is no need for them to tabulate and re-enter all of your data into a database, because they NOW HAVE all of the data in a file in Warehouse 768 or wherever they stash it.  When they had the big purge of Mom and Pop FFL dealers like me and almost every one of my friends, most of us gave up our FFL's, but many of them DID NOT turn in their records, and they were never called about them by the ATF either.    The ATF knew we were all just Mom and Pop dealers buying guns for ourselves, and occasional friends.  We were not "trafficking" in selling guns to bad people.  They just wanted to cut the number of dealers way down, to make it look good for the media.  A buddy of mine kept his FFL through the purge, but then gave up his license a couple of years ago.  He was audited by the ATF.  They intimidated him into giving up his license.  He kept good paperwork, and had maybe three hundred firearms "in his inventory."  They wanted to see and verify EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.  Out of around three hundred guns, he could not find ONE of them; a dinky little used Western Auto single shot .22, that he had in his books, but could not produce it for the team of agents to examine and verify the serial number with his records.  They acted like this was a horrible transgression/law violation, BUT if he would give up his license, they would let it go.  He was scared shitless of going to jail or paying a ten thousand dollar fine, So he gave it up.  They allowed him to make copies of all of his forms, and they took the originals.  He asked them "what about the three hundred firearms I have "in my inventory."  They said, "Those are now your personal firearms, do what you want with them, you are no long a dealer, and do not have to keep any more records." How about that.  He is also a Class III dealer, and they did not ask and did not care one bit about that, and did not check any of those firearms, which he ABSOLUTELY has everything EXACTLY correct.  They didn't question him one bit about those "items."  So, he can still deal with Class III items, and NFA items, but he cannot do the paperwork for me on a Mossberg Shotgun from Bud's Gunshop.  MM

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: May be a fool question
« on: February 12, 2019, 08:27:43 PM »
We had a local cafe here, maybe twenty or so years ago, that offered "beefalo" burgers.  I thought it was going to be the next big thing, but I haven't heard about "beefalos" in years.  I guess it went the way of the Emus.  Speaking of emus, about twenty years ago, I was driving out to our place, and saw that the neighbor's herd of cattle were in a TIGHT cluster; all huddled together and all looking at something across the field from them.  I fully expected to see a pack of coyotes are something, but alas, it was ONE emu, that must have escaped from a emu ranch down the road.  Those cattle did not know WHAT IN THE HECK was that thing, and they went into tight huddle mode for protection.  MM

I may have told this story here before, but a number of years ago, my Son was conducting a financial seminar at a Synagogue in Houston.  This was right after some Muslims had shot up a synagogue in Europe I think.  Anyway, my Son carries.  So he arrives at the Synagogue, and he asked the gentleman in charge of the place, if it was permissible for him to carry inside.  The guy looked at him and said, "EVERYONE in this building carries.  You are very welcomed to carry in here as well, in fact, I ENCOURAGE you to do so."  I like that kind of attitude.  A number of months ago, when we had the local Deputy shot, and the hoodlum was loose on foot in town, the word got out rather quick; we are a small town.  Anyway, my Son's Church, Second Baptist had a thing going on that night, and one of my Sons and another fellow, were asked by the the leaders if they were carrying, and if so, to maintain a "perimeter" around the parking lot area, just in case the hoodlum might end up in that area, and try to jack a car from someone leaving the Church.  I like that kind of attitude as well.  MM

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Knives as gifts
« on: February 12, 2019, 07:55:55 PM »
On the tradition of giving a coin for a knife, I thought that that was an ancient tradition.  The idea is, you do not "give" a knife, you "sell" a knife, or exchange it for a coin.  A couple Christmas's ago, I decided to disperse some of my knife stash, so ALL gifts to all family members, were various knives and edged weapons from my collection.  Each individual was going to get several.  I started the evening with appropriate music.  Instead of Christmas tunes, I had Guy Clark's "Randall Knife" playing over and over in the background.  None of them had ever heard that tune before.  The first gift to each member, was a ziplock bag full of quarters.  Then I explained the tradition of exchanging a coin or two for an edged weapon.  I dispersed my Grandfather's over 120 year old German straight razor, WITH sharpening hone.  My Dad's completely worn out big Case two-blade folder from just after WWII.  Various NICE bayonets.  A "Keen-Kutter" axe.  Even the females got edged weapons.  Then each Son got one of my Randalls.  The little toddlers got knife Christmas ornaments that I had made with their names and the year on them.  I still have three Randalls for them, but they are going to have to wait until they are young men for those.  With each edged item given, they had to give me a quarter or two back.  They got some really PREMIUM stuff.  And with each item, I explained what and why I had acquired it.  After it was all done, we listened to the song one more time, and everyone had a tear in their eye.  They knew before hand, that our family, being outdoors-men and formerly rural types, depended on "the knife" for everything, and that "the knife" was a very important thing as to who we are, as a family.  My Grandfather's straight razor and my Dad's big Case folder WERE the two biggest treasures.  From stories I have read on here, I gather, that knives are important items to most of you.  MM

So, what type of paint did Juan use, that he put it "in the fire."  Did he use a type of powder coat, or some type of baked on enamel.  MM

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Calling it a "Roy"
« on: February 07, 2019, 08:34:31 PM »
Some people just like to hear themselves gripe and complain.  They are often jealous of something that they do not have.  And lots of people like nicknames for things.  I refer to Weatherby's as "Roy's" and as "Bee's," and most people know what I mean when I use those terms.  I have heard the .257 Roberts called a "Bob."  Rifles are called Remmies, Winnies, and Marlies.  When I first started using an AR-15 in NRA Highpower YEAR's ago, everyone called them "Mouse Guns."  I have heard muzzle loaders referred to as smoke poles, front stuffers, and coal burners.  I like your phrase, "There are Bee's and then there are wannabees."  MM

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