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Reloading / Re: 300 weatherby with 215 bergers
« on: August 21, 2018, 02:50:59 PM »
Im using the Berger 210s.  H1000 coal at 3.71 and 215m primer.  less than 3/4 moa @ 2950 out of a MK5 sporter

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They shoot under 1/2 moa @ 3425 fps in my 6.5-300.  Bang flop from 105 to 638 yds.  No bullets recovered.

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Iím leaning towards the 257. Problem is I canít use that in PA for elk hunting. We have a caliber restriction of 27cal with 130grain minimum. I hate to lay out the money for a 257 and not be able to use it.

Then is a no brainer....270 all the way.

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.270 is a lot more versatile, and I own a .257.
If Wby would put a faster twist barrel on the .257 it would allow the use of the heavier 130ish grain bullets that are now coming out.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: deer loads
« on: July 25, 2018, 07:31:28 AM »
You have the horsepower, use it ;D.  210 Berger VLD(.323 G7 BC), H1000, 215M, 3.71COAL, 2950fps no sweat.  Dead critters everywhere........

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I have watched the long range shows and it got me to thinking about bullet performance
I did some figuring; going by  velocity of bullet, and energy at impact.
I shoot barnes bullets and test the Hornady ELD-X. Barnes lists their bullet to expand down to 2000 fps, l think Hornady is 1800 fps
I never push the limit when shooting at game, also l want at least 1500 ft lbs of energy.
I shoot a .257 wby, 100 TTSX, 340 wby, 225 TTSX
Going by the above listings the:
.257 wby = 450 yards max
340 wby = 500 yards max

Some may question this and that's fine but
I shot a bull elk at 380 yards with a 338 win mag and a 225 TTSX, the bullet weighed up at 226 grains, there is a piece of bone under one of the pedals. The point is this was max range for this rifle bullet combo, to get  reliable expansion with that bullet
So a 1000 yard shot on game, with what bullet?
Also do a little research on 1000 yard F class winning targets, you may be surprised on the size of the groups.
It's not a matter of weather you can hit an animal or not, its weather you can take it cleanly with one shot.

I have proven this fact to myself  recently and will "never" push the limits of a caliber again.
340

For an interesting comparison using your 1500 lb energy threshold.
My .257 115 BERGER = 525 yd limit
     6.5-300 143 eldx= 900 yd limit
      .300 210 BERGER = 950 yd limit
 I personally have no problem with people shooting animals at distances they practice at.  Firing a 3 shot group and then going hunting unfortunately is all too common,  and the long range hunting shows donít help.

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Reloading / Re: 6.5-300 Load Help
« on: July 16, 2018, 02:52:33 PM »
Well he must be mistaken or don't know what he is talking about because my MarkV ULW has 6 lands and grooves and no I DID NOT miscount and I marked every one and counted 4 times. So apparently it is just the Vanguards. Mybe someone else with newer MarkV can check theirs.
My early order Accumark is the came as yours.

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Reloading / Re: 6.5-300 Load Help
« on: July 16, 2018, 08:33:23 AM »
The Barnes bullets aren't helping your copper fouling problems......., and 80 rounds through the barrel would not be acceptable for me.  These things have a short barrel life to begin with.

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Reloading / Re: 6.5-300 Load Help
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:16:25 AM »
Pass through on antelope, no pass through on large white tails(270 lbs). Heart and lungs look like weíre ran through a blender.  105 to 638 yds.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 6.5-300 Weatherby
« on: July 11, 2018, 12:32:17 PM »
You will more than likely have fantastic results with those bullets.  I have used BERGERís for 15 years in my .257,115g @3500 fps and .300, 210g at 2940 fps.  I have yet to have a failure.  I would be using them in my 6.5x300 but the 143 eldxís had a little better accuracy.  Donít shoot the shoulder and you wonít waste any meat.

.257,115gr. @3500 fps?  Pretty hot load, about 200fps over max in the Berger book from a 26" barrel!   :)

Berger load data is very conservative and the load is very safe in my gun.

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Reloading / Re: 6.5-300 Load Help
« on: July 11, 2018, 08:59:13 AM »
Ok so here is today's plans. I have a box of Weatherby 127 LRX on hand. I also am loading some of the 91g ELDX loads. I have my magnetospeed and my optical chronograph. I will see if the numbers add up.

Of note :  My barrel after around 30 shots was heavily copper fouled. So I just finished pulling the copper and it's surgical clean right now.

We shall see.

Also : Does anyone have first hand experience with the performance on white tail sized game with the ELDX at these velocities?

I have had stellar accuracy and terminal performance running the ELDX's at 3400+.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 6.5-300 Weatherby
« on: July 10, 2018, 07:15:37 PM »
You will more than likely have fantastic results with those bullets.  I have used BERGERís for 15 years in my .257,115g @3500 fps and .300, 210g at 2940 fps.  I have yet to have a failure.  I would be using them in my 6.5x300 but the 143 eldxís had a little better accuracy.  Donít shoot the shoulder and you wonít waste any meat.

So, from a 15 year user of Berger bullets, you have to wait for the right angle on the critter because they fragment.  What happens if you hit bone first?   :)


I donít eat the ribs or lungs so thatís where I shoot them......... call me crazy.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 6.5-300 Weatherby
« on: July 10, 2018, 05:12:48 AM »
You will more than likely have fantastic results with those bullets.  I have used BERGERís for 15 years in my .257,115g @3500 fps and .300, 210g at 2940 fps.  I have yet to have a failure.  I would be using them in my 6.5x300 but the 143 eldxís had a little better accuracy.  Donít shoot the shoulder and you wonít waste any meat.

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Nope, but the deer tags (buck & doe) are $336, which I think is high for two deer.    Add it all up, and before you know it, you have $500-600 just on licenses (I hunt deer, pheasant, & turkey when I go).  Then hotels, food, processing, gas, groceries, etc, etc.  it all adds up, and the entire state, and local towns are benefiting from it.  If you jack up the prices, you will have not have the amount of hunters visiting your state.  Very few of us are hunting public land, we are either paying someone to hunt their land, or know someone.  GA is less than $120 for three days and you can shoot up to 12 deer.  I think it's a trade off, and everyone benefits from it.  If prices are too high, it becomes a rich man's game, and average Joes like me could not afford to do.


BTW, all of us who hunt your state are thankful for the opportunity to hunt such a great state.  We have stablished long lasting relationship with the locals, and I have some good friends who have visited me when I was station in FL, and here in GA.
If your coming from GA and hunting private land in SD the licenses are the cheapest part of your trip. There is very little out of state big game hunting pressure here.  Pheasant hunting is another story.  The GF&P lie about the pheasant count (which is down 90%) in order to sell as many licenses as possible.  They do this while not taking care of their "public hunting" land.  Signs, fixing fence, spraying weeds, and enforcing their own regulations all get pushed by the wayside.  $121 dollars lets you hunt almost any road right of way,  what that does on low bird count years is makes a lot of hunters "braver" then they normally would be(shooting too close to dwellings and livestock).  This forces the landowner to enforce the regulations.  Landowners routinely take pictures of hunting licenses and vehicle license plates, and send them to the Conservation Officer.  The typical CO response is "we never caught up with the suspects."
    The new thing landowners are seeing a lot of is now apparently you can hunt state wide for the $121 and an additional $254.  The $254 lets you claim "unknown trespassing" when a warden stops you.  "Oh I thought this was Uncle Teds land and we have permission from him."  Warden says, "well sorry guys Ill have to write you a $254 ticket, but you don't loose your birds, days left on your license, there will be no record of this anywhere so if you don't pay the fine it wont show up when you come next year and you can do the same thing again, have a nice day." 
    Im not necessarily mad at anyone coming here, but $121 is too cheap to hunt what was once one of the best pheasant hunting destinations in the world.  Then worse than that is the way the GF&P is managing the whole thing.  I hope they get it straightened out before it turns into a disaster like our walleye fishing is on the Missouri River. 

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We have more hunters and fisherman here in SD than ever before due to our beloved GF&P pimping out our wildlife for next to nothing.

Not so much for the out of state hunters, which I think is where your state makes most of the money.  I hunt SD (Winner) almost every November, and I've seen a steady increase in the prices of deer tags, and pheasant tags. I still go every chance I get. 
 It's not necessarily what is spent on licenses, but what is spent in total.  Grumpy all year people in Kent County Maryland kiss the waterfowl hunter's butts because they know how much they add to the local economy!  :)

GFP charges a nonresident a whopping $121 to hunt all small game including phesants, and $68 to fish....it doesn't get much cheaper than that.

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