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I was talking to my brother today and asked if he applied for another sheep tag. He said he shot 4 throughout the years and that was enough. He figured someone else should have a chance.I knew he had shot two so I asked him about the others. He was sure he told me about them but I just forgot. One year he drew a tag so he and his wife went out a few days after the season opened. They stopped at a motel and then headed out in the afternoon just to check out the area to see if there were many trucks parked. There was was a couple guys by their trucks talking so he grabbed his rifle and binoculars  and just went a few hundred yards up a ridge to look and figure out where to go in the morning. He saw a ram and shot it. He was in a white t shirt and jeans so he went back to truck, changed clothes and along with his wife packed that ram back. The guys at the trucks couldn’t believed what happened.
The next hunt he went to the same place and shot another ram. There was a hunter near him and the guy offered to help him pack it out. It was only about a mile. The guy started telling Joel about this guy and his wife who shot a ram a few years before. The guy was wearing just a white t shirt and jeans.... joel said he never mentioned it was him. I thought that was quite a cool story.

Reloading / Re: 300 WBY Mag and Berger's 180gr Elite Hunter loads
« on: March 27, 2018, 05:59:52 PM »
I’ll get you reloading information from him.

Reloading / Re: 300 WBY Mag and Berger's 180gr Elite Hunter loads
« on: March 27, 2018, 12:38:37 PM »
A friend has loaded them for target shooting. If you want, I can ask him for the most accurate recipe. You have the RC, range certified, accumark. What was the load they used and sent with the rifle? That would have been the most accurate load for your rifle. Do you prefer the Berger Elite bullet?

This type of business practice has caused many companies to fail. They fail to follow what the original owners wanted to provide their customers.
I’m glad Weatherby has remained a family company. The Weatherby I buy today is the same as when Roy started, only better. The family makes a profit and employs quality people who are able to support their families. This is a simple concept that has worked for years in America.

I have muzzle brakes on all my Rifles with the exception of a .22. I think quite highly of Wby brakes due to “real life” perceived recoil and not “X” amount of foot pounds energy registered at the butt end of a scale.
Will a .416 with a brake feel like a .378 lacking one? Short answer is yes.
However, the shape of a Weatherby stock and contour of the butt, the Monte Carlo or, also called, in some ancient petroglyph cave drawings in which my grandfather inhabited, “The California Stock”.
I have found these stocks, with the accubrake, kick far less than expected. My .300 Wby weighs 1-1/2 lb less than my ..300 Savage with an “Answer” brake yet the recoil felt with the Savage is noticeably sharper.
Whatever big bore you settle on I suggest a Weatherby with the brake on during practice and off if people are next to you. I leave my brake on 95% of the time because I usually am shooting when my partner is not next to me. I also find the the advantage of watching when the bullet connects and seeing how the animal reacts due to reduced muzzle jump.
Go with a Wby rifle in the caliber that is one size larger and after some rounds fired you will see what I mean. And when you take your animal, please post a picture for the rest of us to share in your success. Most hunters and all men seem to like pictures of all sorts of game we score on.😃

Ammo / Re: Multiple Weatherby 7mm Dud
« on: March 22, 2018, 08:54:01 PM »
Curious if you heard anything from Weatherby customer service or  experienced and technically expert personnel.

Ammo / Re: 6.5-300
« on: March 22, 2018, 08:45:07 PM »
You should look at any 6.5-300 posts from member Oregonmarkv
He is one of the members that knows what he is talking about. Compared to me, he is more knowledgeable about ammo and bullet construction, weight, performance on game, etc.... He is a logical and pragmatic thinker. I pay attention to his opinions because he comes to logical conclusions based on real life experience and suggests fact based solutions. Not speculations based on emotion, hearsay or the many wise and all knowing “experts” found somewhere on the Internet.

Ammo / Re: 6.5-300
« on: March 21, 2018, 08:04:31 PM »
Weatherby also has the Select Plus with the 140 Berger VLD’s. I have been using these explosive bullets in some of my Rifles specifically when hunting whitetails and Antelope. I love how they drop these animals in their tracks. No searching for a deer that might end up on a neighbors property. Getting permission is never an issue. I just don’t want to be walking on their property pushing other deer out of areas like bedding/ sanctuary spots that we always stay out of to give the deer places they are unmolested and never disturbed. My neighbor farmers whose land is next to mine have an unwritten agreement to not hunt or set up a shack within 100 yards of the fence line. This has been going on for at least 50 years.
So, I use the VLD’s to drop the deer and prevent crossing fence lines.
Even though I am sold on the 127 gr Barnes for my 6.5-300 Wby I am going to buy a box of 140 VLD’s just to see if they shoot moa in my rifle. When I hunt Michigan whitetails at my place, I am in a shack and my shooting areas and lanes allow me,99% of the time, to wait for a broadside shot. The VLD’s placed behind the shoulder assures me it will just drop.
When I hunt Antelope I am also able to wait for a perfect shot opportunity. I use the 115 gr VLD in my .257 Wby & 25-06. On whitetails the 210 gr VLD in a .300 Wby .300 win mag and 168 gr VLD for my .30-06.
Last year, the first year I owned the 6.5-300 ULW, I used the 127 gr Barnes to shoot my buck and doe. It was a new rifle caliber so I wanted to shoot it as much as possible. They also dropped in their tracks. The doe was a head shot and buck a neck quartering towards me shot.
On mule deer out west where I might jump a buck I will only use the 127 gr Barnes and also on elk because I want as much penetration as possible.
So, I will buy a box of these factory 140 gr VLD’s and see how they shoot. I will let you know how they group.

Other Big Game / Re: West QLD AUS Hunt report
« on: March 20, 2018, 06:10:07 PM »
I just received my April 2018 NRA’s American Hunter magazine. There is a story on hunting Australian Water Buffalo on Arnhem Land in the Northern Territory’s. It’s a good read.

Rifles / Re: Gilfriend won a Camilia
« on: March 20, 2018, 06:01:32 PM »
Congratulations and I hope she will enjoy shooting the rifle.

Ammo / Re: 6.5-300
« on: March 20, 2018, 10:13:11 AM »
I own the 6.5-.300 ULW with the lightest contour fluted barrel. The factory select plus ammo with the Barnes LRX 127 gr., the scirocco 130 gr and 140 gr A frame the cost is between $74-$100 per box. Expensive. The less expensive Select is still $50+ per box. If you check out all the posts here you will see that the Barnes Lrx 127 gr has shown to have the best accuracy. My rifle shoots 1/2” 3 shot groups with the 127gr LRX. I have tried the 140 gr A frame ammo and they shoot just under 1”.
My suggestion is to buy the Barnes 127 gr. first and shoot a couple 3 shot groups, letting the barrel cool down between each shot. If it shoots under an inch, stop your search and go with them. This bullet will take down everything from antelope to elk. If you really spend the time researching this caliber, as I have, you will find this bullet as the most recommended.
Research and verify what I have said here and then come to your own conclusion. Weatherby shot my rifle and the 127 gr Barnes is what they told me to shoot. I am not sure if they tried other bullets, but I have enough common sense to take the advice of experts that know a heck of a lot more than I do. I picked up a box of the Barnes LRX from a local Weatherby approved service center gun shop and when I shot my rifle I was convinced this is what my rifle liked. I went back to the store and purchased 3 more boxes with the same lot number to assure myself that each bullet that left my barrel would be just as accurate. I now have enough rounds to last me a long time and gave me complete confidence in my rifle’s ability to place a bullet in the same place I aim each and every time I pull the trigger.
I now have what each and every hunter I know strives for. Confidence.

I had a Savage axis and I couldn’t find a factory bought load(I don’t reload) that would group less than 6 inches. I had a gunsmith check it out and he said to return it. I did. About 2 weeks later Savage called me and told where to pick up my rifle. I went to the gun shop and there was a brand new rifle waiting for me with 2 boxes of ammo. They sent the target they had used with the brand of ammo they sighted it in with. A 5 shot group of .67” at 100 yards. I eventually gifted it to a friend who uses it for deer and elk hunting. He shoots probably 100 rounds a month with that rifle at targets out to 400 yards. His favorite targets are plastic milk jugs with red colored water. He’s in his mid 70’s and shooting that rifle is his favorite pastime.

Other Big Game / Re: West QLD AUS Hunt report
« on: March 19, 2018, 06:20:38 PM »
Here in the states we have a huge problem with deer/vehicle collisions. We have more whitetail deer in more states than ever. The population explosion has to do with many variables but hunters have done more to increase the habitat and protect the species more than all the groups like Peta, humane society and so called animal lovers combined. We have more auto accidents due to many reasons; the adaptability of the specie to thrive in all types of habitat, environments and climates and the increase of people moving into newly developed suburbs that used to be farm country. The refusal of these new towns to control and reduce the population through hunting also contributes to the problem. No one wants firearms to be used in populated areas, but archery could be and is a safe alternative. I remember quite a few years ago reading an article about doing this very same thing in the suburbs of Minneapolis/St. Paul. There were some absolute monsters shot. Instead of allowing this type of a safe hunting technique, they just used a broad stroke of the brush and painted all hunting as dangerous, cruel and abhorrent to rationally minded, civilized societies . As more and more suburb residents have their expensive flora eaten, landscape destroyed, aggressive rutting bucks chasing kids waiting for the school bus, $2000 specially bred dogs being impaled and expensive SUV’s and soccer mom vans damaged with insurance rates skyrocketing due to unwanted Bambi encounters are waking up to reducing the herds by listening to sound, scientific advice of wildlife experts and using the best way to reduce the herds. Hunting. I have hit probably a dozen deer and just about everyone I know has wrecked a vehicle. My brother hit a deer, had it repaired and a couple weeks later did so again. He picked his repaired truck and the next morning, about 12 hours later, hit another deer and totaled the truck. This all happened in the span of about 5 weeks. This happened to someone who knows how to watch and anticipate areas that deer may cross the road. He pays attention to the glow of eyes at night and if he sees a deer cross the road ahead of hit, he slow downs and anticipates another deer that might be following.
I guess I went “off subject” on this post and apologize for doing so.

My nephew in law purchased one in .300 win mag about a year ago. I was able to shoot it a couple different times. He found 180 gr Winchester silvertips the most accurate. Three shot groups at 200 yards were just under an inch. I had the first 2 shots almost in the same hole. We actually stopped and walked to the target to check it out. From the bench looking through my 15 power binos I couldn’t tell if it shot in the same hole or if I missed the target completely.
The rifle stock does feel cheap but the accuracy more than made up for that. I could recommend the rifle as a inexpensive gun with great accuracy. I shot a few of my HSM 210gr VLD’s and those grouped about 1-1/2” at 200 yards. An accurate rifle for well under $500.

Other Big Game / Re: West QLD AUS Hunt report
« on: March 18, 2018, 05:55:32 PM »
In the photo with the merino ram there is a pile of dirt the rams head is resting on. Is this just a natural pile of dirt or is this something an animal made and if so, what kind of animal?

That is an old Termite mound. They are a small grub type thing that eats wood. They use their saliva and dirt to make these mounds in which to live. Some of these mounds up in the Northern Territory can reach 12ft in height.

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