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Yes they will. A coyote attacked a jogger in Colorado some years ago. I laugh a little because Colorado takes such a passive stance on predator control.

You don’t hear about these incidents in Wyoming…just sayin’.  :)

Easy now! Not everyone in Colorado is like that

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Mule deer numbers have been in a decline for years. Many studies out there as too why. We may never seen the numbers of the 60’s-80’s again, but l sure hope we can. Going hunting and seeing several big 4pts a day on public land would sure be fun again

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Toms A Struttin
« on: Yesterday at 07:00:29 AM »
Seen a couple skunks yesterday also. Not many turkeys around. I do miss hunting them every spring

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As usual Ron started talking and l fell asleep

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: It's about time.
« on: February 28, 2024, 05:54:39 AM »
Wish every place had that law

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Rifles / Re: Newest purchase
« on: February 28, 2024, 05:52:58 AM »
That looks like a perfect rig for coyote hunting here in the SW. Good cartridge also. You should get a lot of use out of it around your new property

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Off to get Tanned
« on: February 25, 2024, 06:01:19 AM »
Sorry to butt in on this one,   skinning depends on what you want to do with it ?   e.g.  head mount, shoulder mount,  full mount, rug.  if you are going to sell coyote, fox, bobcat, and a few other animals  hide  TUBE them which means you don't field dress them in the normal sense.  If you don't know how to Cape leave it to the Taxidermist. Cutting around the head, eyes, nose, lips, ears, even tails can be screwed up and are best left to someone that's done a few.   Most of the local Taxidermist & hard core trophy hunters I know use a simple small fixed blade shaping knife,  it's various names are Bird Beak knife,  Peeling knife, Shaping knife ,  and are made by Victorinox VIC- 6.7703  ,  Wusthof 4033E,  Henkels makes them also,  Koch at one time made them that's what we have, usually around 2 1/4"  to 2 1/2" blade. The belly fur on Coyotes and Bobcats can be the most prized so you don't cut thru it if you are going to sell it.  Anyway if you are making a mount  just follow the standard procedures for field dressing and just cut enough in the groin to belly to get the gut's out and let the taxidermist do the rest,  really the same for a rug and leave the tail attached, don't even try to skin the paws leave that to the experts.  If you are going to make a shoulder or head mount field dress the old school way and don't split the rib cage only cut maybe up the bottom of the rib cage and skin around the whole animal and PEEL / Carefully pull and cut & skin up to the base of the skull  working your way around TUBING around the chest & front legs if you can / sometimes you may have to cut inside the front legs in a V shape  the main thing is to leave enough uncut hide to make your shoulder mount when in doubt go down to your Taxidermist and have him show you where he wants you to cut,  once you have the hide down far enough on the head cut the head off and put the head and intact hide on ice and cooled down if needed, again ask your Taxidermist how he want it delivered.  one of my son's elk we had to buy 200 pounds of ice to cool the elk down.    Arizona has laws where importing /bringing your wild game kill into the state more so for animals that may get Chronic Wasting Disease that have to be processed and packaged before entering the State,  and the Head mount skinned, skull plate  fleshed of all meat before entry,  that's kind of a brief version you would have to read the AZ regs for the complete version.  I'm kind of 50/50 on the gutless method of field dressing,  if you do it right you won't lose a lot of meat on the other hand we pick them clean the old school way and try not to leave any usable meat for the Ravens.  Even my Taxidermy friends all have large Gantry Cranes at their shops  an elk can stretch out 12 ft or more when lifted,  and all they use to skin these big animals is a small Bird Beak Shaping Peeling knife plus they are very good for Caping the head that and a good flat blade screw driver to pry the hide around the antlers/horns.

No worries, very good explanation

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Off to get Tanned
« on: February 19, 2024, 06:11:04 AM »
When I read the headline of this thread I had pictures of Mike off to the tanning bed. They were not very nice images either  ;D ;D :P

But you had to look!!  8) 8) ;D ;D ;D

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Off to get Tanned
« on: February 19, 2024, 06:09:37 AM »
Summer time a few years back my wife called me while she was driving to work just before town said there was coyote just hanging around, so I  grabbed my wife's Remington 788 in 243 and son drove a few miles and coyote still there so he shot it,   anyway he looked like hell probably mange and had 3 legs and he stunk bad.  The rifle actually likes the old Sierra 60 gr HP's or Speer 85 gr BT.  Where we live go north a little it can be very open ,  at our house elevation 6400 ft with Utah Juniper or what some call it Cedars mixed in with  Pinyon and Pondarosa  pine it can be very thick, go a couple miles it's more pine and oak trees around 7000 ft elev,  a  couple of my friends use old Savage 24 over under shotgun rifle combo's 223 or 222 over a 12 ga with scopes,  the reason I mention it in this thick stuff you might have a  4 legged Fox in your lap calling not the 2 legged kind especially with a hand call that happened to our old trapper friend when we were kids.  I've had coyotes get pretty close they just didn't know what I was,  that's where a shotgun comes in real handy.  I never have broke down and bought a commercial electronic call  for varmints,   it's always been hand calls although I did buy a couple of the old Johnny Stewart cassette's for a little tape player I still have,  it works.

Using mouth calls is fun but can get old when calling all day. I went with the Lucky Duck call and l seldom take a mouth call anymore

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 240 magnum
« on: February 18, 2024, 05:44:32 PM »
Just talked with a guy from Canada that uses the 240 for Wolves and coyotes, thinks it great for that. Lots of better options for a long ranges varmint rifle. I like a 204 for PD. Cheap to reload and super flat shooting

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Off to get Tanned
« on: February 18, 2024, 05:34:34 PM »
Good job!   Those winter coats sure look nice,  boy I tell you in the AZ summer they stink, they look ragged, and I'm not sure what all the bugs that are on them,  guy's that hunt them in the warmer weather bag them and use Raid bug killer along with wearing protective gloves,  we do have Plague fleas and Hantavirus here,    winter time they way better ,  sure a lot of them around our place with all the scattered houses being built been having a Rabies problem according to our local newspaper.  Wife just took our Catahoula Leopard dog in for her rabies  shots this morning.

Yeah summer time coyotes are not a pretty site. We got another one the same day that had Mange. Did that one a favor for sure. What a horrible way to go.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Off to get Tanned
« on: February 18, 2024, 05:30:55 PM »
thought you were going to visit Grouchy in Florida ;D

 In 2000 we built a new house and I had shot some nice coyotes. Had a couple tanned a big one made into a rug and a nice female done in a head mount. Beautiful rug out of the huge coyote but I think my favorite is the head mount.


Hahaha yeah no, not off to Florida
Coyote rugs and mounts are really nice l think.
Now l wish l would have made a rug out of this one, but was back when hides were selling high and l just took the money.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Off to get Tanned
« on: February 18, 2024, 05:25:40 PM »
She was wearing what looks like a pretty silver gray coat, she'll make a fine addition to the trophy room. What rille and ammo did you use?

Ruger precision rifle, 6mm creedmore. 108 ELD-Match. Super accurate, and really doesn’t blow the hides up like l thought it would. I don’t think they expand much.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Off to get Tanned
« on: February 17, 2024, 08:47:57 PM »
This is a young female. But wow what a pretty hide. Getting this one tanned

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Reloading / Re: 257 Weatherby load data for Newfoundland Moose
« on: February 14, 2024, 06:37:47 AM »
I shoot the 100 grain TTSX. Have taken multiple elk with no problems. Keep your range down under 150-200 yards with a well placed shot. 257 will do fine

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