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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Vet
« on: Yesterday at 10:00:13 AM »
Good job !! yea it's sometimes a good thing to hang around when something doesn't seem right. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Borescope
« on: January 30, 2023, 05:42:04 PM »
some bench rest shooters use a combo of JB paste and Kroil to clean their barrels .  I use it all the time kind of a light lubricant / penetrating oil.   normally I order several 8 oz cans and keep it around for other things also.  Sometimes I will use JB Bore bright it's more of a polishing paste it's another one of those I had to try out.  Kano Kroil is one of those I keep on hand.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Here we go again
« on: January 29, 2023, 09:24:28 PM »
friends took their snow mobiles up to one our mtn lakes yesterday for some ice fishing little over 9000 ft,  forest service road gates are closed , but they leave side access for snow mobiles.  I'll talk to them tomorrow and see how they did.  most all the animals up high have dropped down to lower elevations except black bears in hybernation.   It's like another world snow drifts and wind,  I still have  snow at my place  down lower at 6400 ft, starting to melt, elk have been around the property the last month from the storms,   too damn cold for my bones. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Throat Erosion
« on: January 29, 2023, 09:18:39 PM »
It doesn't look like it's been shot all that much as compared to other's I've seen.   when it starts looking like a heat checked worn out pressure plate on a car or charred piece of burnt wood , even then I wouldn't start worrying too much unless accuracy starts dropping. 

I think it goes in cycles when the demorats hold the cards,  I would be more concerned about new laws and shortages/prices of primers and powders. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Lessons for life
« on: January 19, 2023, 01:11:12 AM »
That's a good one ,  I like that !!!

I miss our long talks on the phone,  he mixed me an evan williams whiskey & coke out hunting and then poured it in an ice filled  32 ounce or so circle K plastic mug  full to the top half whiskey half coke I figured at that point we were going to have a great hunt.  He was one of a kind. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Borescope
« on: January 19, 2023, 12:37:29 AM »
One thing the Teslong bore scope  taught me was finding  easier ways to clean a barrel chemically by trial & error without a lot of back and forth wearing out bore brushes and a lot of work.  first time I looked at my dad's old pre-64 winchester it looked like it was gold plated copper fouled down the entire length of the barrel and the rifle shot pretty darn well which kind of surprised me.  I finally decided on using sharp shoot r precision  ( the liquid wipe out  patch-out) along with (wipe out accelerator) and sometimes every now and then I use (wipe out tactical advantage carbon/powder remover).  Follow directions when using wipe out procucts and even if it"s totally copper fouled it may take multiple cleaning try's and using a bore scope to verify where the heavy fouling spots are located in the barrel  it should come clean UNLESS the barrel is so pitted and rough nothing is going to get it out at that point just shoot it and not worry about it.  I do think sometimes and this depends upon the weapons barrel a little fouling is not a bad thing to settle the barrel down.  I do still use KG-12 and Boretech mostly for verifying copper is out with a clean patch.  I  think you might be surprised just how imperfect even new barrels are. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 7mm PRC - Your thoughts?
« on: January 03, 2023, 06:42:10 PM »
Of my family and friends  that shoot the various 7mm mags,   some use the rem 7mm mag, some use 7mm stw, several use custom built 7mm rem ultra mags,  and I have a 7mm Wby Deluxe which just sits there collecting dust.   Honestly  for what we do I don't see any advantage of some of these newer prc type cartridges  over our  older 7mm mags or our 300 Weatherby's using heavy weight high B/C bullets at long ranges  and if you are going to hunt big animals (not target shoot) at these extra long ranges it might be wise to choose one of the better 338 wildcats or factory 338 mags if you want to push the range limits. some of our friends and family are really poking out there.    Now if a person wants or doesn't already have a good prc in some suitable cartridge in  7mm mag or 300 mag then by all means get what you want. 

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Rifle Plans
« on: January 03, 2023, 06:20:53 PM »
Probably going to be a new muzzle loader something for long range using 209 or vari flame systems.  had a  cow elk hunt last week using my old Ruger 77/50 and number 11 caps of course snow on the ground mtn roads shut down the last day due to snow,   hunting locally  I pulled the trigger on a nice fat cow about 100 yds and cap went off and the 777  loose powder did not go bang,   anyway fiddling around trying to get a new cap on the inline nipple watching the herd run off,  then to top it off the next elk were side by side and couldn't shoot.  Poked holes in left 2 bfg tires on my Bronco 9 dollars worth of car wash change to get most of the red clay off the Bronco and I did that on 2 different days.    So I'm either going to get a new bolt built to convert the Ruger to a crush fit 209 system or buy a new long range muzzleloader.    bought a set of 338 Lapua dies and bullets so I must be looking at one,  not a real high priority though.  I really don't want a new precision rifle stock more looking at the Weatherby and Christensen arms  models but open to others makers if the right deal comes along,  I'd be better off just using my trusty 300 Wby and save some jingle.   

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: A Stroll Down Memory lane?
« on: December 29, 2022, 06:07:41 PM »
I wonder what happened to Oregon Jim , Dubyan,  and Mikey from Oregon he  hasn't been on here for years.   There was another guy a NAS Car builder who moved to Washington State forgot his name haven't heard from him in years also.   Hope they are ok.   As for shooting these types of groups at anything past 1000 yds I got to see it to believe it let alone 2000 + Yds.    The 30-378 was kind of the in thing when came out and started getting some traction.  It's a very good long range caliber and several aquaintances  I know use it here in AZ for long range cross canyon Coues deer and Elk.  Plinking targets at 1000 yds + ranges is one thing, and actually taking big game at these longer ranges is a whole different ball game.  One thing without getting into the quick load programs and tinker with what if's  it would not surprise me for someone to push a really light off the shelf bullets , with the right powder, in excess of 4000 fps + in a 30-378 in a 30 " barrel, but then you start  increasing bullet drops  at these extended ranges when using lighter bullets.   

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Tribute in Passing
« on: December 22, 2022, 05:08:58 PM »
Good man , good friend, a lot of fun to hunt with,  and he did like his whiskey.   

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Morning Quail hunt
« on: December 14, 2022, 06:45:05 PM »
Nice doggy's ,  looks like a lot of fun

I guess it really depends on what gun you are shooting semi-auto or non semi-auto,  max ranges,  whether it's in a trap i.e handgun ranges,  or calling.  You hit bone even 22 LR's can cause damage.  If legal in your area and you are calling and not using a semi auto might want to look at and test in a block of clay or other test media if you can to find a good load that doesn't really tear things up.  Might look at  FMJ 223 bullets and load down to under 2000 fps  maybe under 150 yds or so.   Other school of thought is super velocities with a frangible bullet that completely comes apart   Might look at sintered bullets,  One of the better set ups and several hunting buddies use over under Savage shotgun / rifle barrels and select your barrel depending upon range,  put a scope on it you can sight down the barrel for up close shots using the shot gun barrel  use bird shot and load lite,  use an open choke.  Baikal made some over under shotgun / rifle guns.  on the rifle barrel side I guess choose your poison.  Years ago when it was Legal here in certain seasons   turkey gun was a 30-06 using very hard  cast lead bullets and load down carefully with the correct powder to 1800 fps of less with a 180 grain round or flat nose bullet which does not expand and pokes holes right thru unless you hit bone and then you get secondary wound channels from bone splinters.  Might even use  22 LR  or magnum with heavy lead bullets if it's Legal in your area for fox and bobcats.  I suggest making up some  clay, gelatin or wet news paper  go shoot some loads and then make a decision.  Pelt prices are down from a few years ago,  I don't know what prices currently are.

Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: A Weatherby Super .30 Cal?
« on: December 05, 2022, 10:34:02 AM »
I can totally get the want part of a new gun,  the biggest issue I have is I rarely use what I have   with the exception of my favorites for hunting.  I do prefer lighter weight rifles (not these new heavy precision rifles per say), we do hunt long ranges.  since most of the local hunters we hang with are hunting long ranges sometimes past 1000 yds using calibers from 7mm Rem &  7mm ultra mags, stw's, various big 30's, .  Me personally if I were going to get a new long range rifle is would most likely be a Weatherby composite stock in 338 Lapua.  None of this bigger long range 7mm and larger 338 ammo is cheap as is half the other long range ammo,  unless you re-load most of us do.    If you are hunting  big bull elk for instance any of the 7mm mags are fully capable of whacking a bull at 600-700 yds with power to spare as long as you hit it right. I do think the trend here locally is going to some of the newer PRC calibers shooting heavy bullets,  I don't know any of our friends using Weaterby RPM calibers not to say that's bad it's just not as popular where I live,  there are some guy's using some very powerful wildcats in the 30 to 375 caliber sizes.  You start hunting bigger elk at really extended ranges it becomes more a bullet issue than a pure caliber issue,  most really good long range hunters can hit what they are aiming at or they just don't shoot (why risk it), anyway it's the bullet that does the job and that's where it's important to choose wisely.  Recently  hunter passed on 4 very large bulls  that were sky lighted on the ridge @ 200 yds all very nice bulls with one heavier mass 6 by with a bunch of kickers,  not shooting was the right thing to do not knowing what was beyond the target.  That same hunt some yea hoo's were shooting in our direction I'm sure they didn't see us and we didn't see them "BUT" anyone that's ever been shot at knows that distinctive bullet breaking the sound barrier crack before the boom and you start hitting the ground.   I kind of look at it if you want something get it,  can't take it with you so might as well enjoy it while you can.

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