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« on: January 19, 2024, 07:12:00 PM »
When we were kids my dad was federal police officer in charge of police depts on different reservations at different times, this time we lived on the White Mtn Aache reservation in the 60's. Spent many a night sleeping on a dirt floor in General Crooks house on Fort Apache. at that time the Reservations goverment Hunter/Trapper and his family lived in the house. I could tell you stories. Jaguars were still on the reservation, and predators. lot's of Mtn Lions, and everything else. back then they had open pit dumps on a lot of the lakes Bears had their own grocery store to munch out on. I would be more worried about tangling with a Bobcat than other cats for one reason they will defend their kill even if it's against a Mtn Lion or Bear. The other reason Bobcats can get Rabies and they aren't too afraid of us when sick. We use to go on the old traplines with him and he taught us kids all about how this Bear killed this Mtn Lion that was trapped or the other way around how this Mtn Lion killed this Bear in a trap. I have one of the largest Black Bears ever taken my Dad killed with a 243 winchester the gov'n hunters new rem 600, bear went 585 lbs and was skin and bones on his last winter , broken teeth, nose and ears torn off from fighting, going bald and was light blonde blonde in color, figured he would go in the 800 lb range in his prime as per the gov'n hunter. These guy's are all long gone now. The guy was a wealth of Info and what a hunter. I've chased Mtn Mion into old cowboy line shacks before, Myself and family have been stalked multiple times by Black Bears, mock charged, and I know Mtn Lions are watching us even if I don't see them while elk hunting, some these were very large bears, called in Bears and Lions with hand calls, back then all I had was a 30-30 model 94 , nowdays I carry a Colt Delta Elite 10mm auto in a in the front chest holster something I can get to fast, with max load 180 to 200 gr hard cast, or a small lightweight 30-30 or 6.5x55 rifle or small 12 ga with a mix of buckshot and slugs. if I'm just out and about. Most of the guys that run Lions with dogs that i know use 357 or 44 handguns their clients may be carrying rifles and such as long as they can shoot them under stress. It's kind of a dying breed anymore. Bears they usually go a little larger in caliber, my daughter shot hers with a 1 st year Remington 700 carbine in 30-06. Nice little rifle although it had a recoil pad that reverted back to the rubber tree so I installed a good recoil pad on it for her.