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You might be hard pressed to get a better home protection arm,but I'd opt for something in 20 gauge and would use the little short shells.That would take a lot of the umpth out of the kick to your hand on one of these pistol grip type shotguns.

Those little pistol grip shotguns are ok close range guns. I've tried them at an indoor range that rents them. I personally liked the bull pup's better but I don't think I'd buy one of those either. I have a Benelli M4 Super 90 semi auto 12 gauge for home defense and it will easily get the job done. It's also easy to shoot.

The other one that I never understood is the 9mm AR style rifle/pistols. I've shot a lot of 9mm through an Uzzi which in full auto, get's the lead out but a semi-auto doesn't make much sense to me. I have a new Glock 45 with a 17 round magazine. I can carry it concealed or open and I'd bet I can out shoot anyone with a 9mm AR.
Reloading / Re: 300 wby 178 eldx reload data
« Last post by HighDesertHunter on Today at 06:11:34 AM »
I would think you could use the same data as the A-Max. I could be wrong but isnt the ELD-X just an updated AMAX?

Correct, the load data is the same. Actually, it's the same for all 178-180g Hornady bullets.
I don't get the craze with the short barrel shotguns with the pistol grip.  Maybe they're trying to appeal to the movie crowd or make them appear cool but most people will only shoot them once and regret doing it.  To me they rate up with a turtle on a fence post.  There's some nice new stuff coming out and some that'd I'd classify as junk such as the Standard Manufacturing S333 Thunderstruck.  What a piece of crap, I'd be embarrassed to even look at that let alone buy one. 
Reloading / Re: 300 wby 178 eldx reload data
« Last post by flyinstroke on Today at 05:55:18 AM »
I would think you could use the same data as the A-Max. I could be wrong but isnt the ELD-X just an updated AMAX?
I had that same question back in 1967 when I put my first centerfire rifle together with a semi-inleted stock blank from Herter's.  As a college student, I didn't have the money for a professional checkering job, so, as a DIY guy, I bought some Dem Bart checkering tools, and after a few practice patterns on scraps of wood, I checkered that stock myself.  It actually came out pretty good.

Since then I have finished stocks for a half dozen or so rifles, with the last 4 having the same multi-panel wrap-around pattern.  I think I had about 80 hours in the last rifle that I checkered.

This is a Richards laminate stock that I checkered a little over 10 years ago.

Great job!!
I checkered my 7x57 rifle a few years ago after purchasing a dem bart kit from brownells. It is a tedious process and takes a great deal of time, patience, and a steady hand. Those areas are not my strong suits but I do think it turned out pretty decent. I don't have a pic of it handy at the moment but if I find one, I'll post it later.

I plan on checkering my 240 wby stock whenever I get around to finishing the unfinished projects on my work bench.

I've found, for me, the less complex patterns are the best route. I used a pre-64 Winchester checkering pattern for my 7x57. Basically I just found pictures online and created my own template. Then I used a pounce-wheel to transfer the pattern onto the walnut. I've heard harder woods like maple are more time consuming and harder on your tools, but I have not attempted a maple stock, yet. I think another good pattern is a Ruger number 1. Looks classy and stays simple.
with today's machine checkering it can be done cheaper then hand checkering which takes time to draw a pattern you want if you have the skills to draw and then transpose it to the wood is probably the hardest thing about checkering but you also need a steady hand to follow the lines and good eye sight not to have too many over runs. Did I forget to add carving skills also to add fancy designs.
All of these things add time to hand checker a stock and one of the main reasons most companies use a machine to checker their stocks.

Cool! Thanks for sharing. Those retro mossberg shotguns look pretty cool. I'd like to see more retro offerings like that from all the manufacturers.
Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Checkering a rifle stock
« Last post by wby4ever on Today at 03:12:14 AM »
nice work and great patience!
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