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.308 or .270 more practical for my situation?

.308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« on: October 07, 2016, 07:57:37 AM »
Hi everyone, glad to be on the board.  Some really great reading so far.

I'm looking for a little help in finalizing my next rifle/caliber decision. Getting ready to order myself a new lightweight rifle for deer.  I'm in the north east and most shots are less than 200yds and more woods than open spaces.  I'm in a quandary on caliber for a few reasons:
1. I know they are both very close in real world usability at the distances I'll be using and the recoil in a light weight rifle is pretty close.
2. I already have several .308's (heavy) and reload for them, so have all the components/dies.
3. I have a 300WM for any long range stuff that comes along, but it's also big and heavy.  Also have a .260 & .243 but they are heavy too.  See a theme here?  I've got all big target guns.
4. I don't own any long action caliber other than the 300WM
5. During the ammo buying frenzies of past, .270 and its components seemed readily available, much more so than .30 cal. stuff which was scarce.
6. I will add that I've been tossing around the option of a lightweight .243, but the .308/.270 seem more versatile if I were to need them for anything bigger down the road.  But who doesn't need a reason to buy a new rifle right?

I'm leaning towards the .308 just because I'll save money of not having to order all the .270 reloading gear, cuz I gotta reload.  That being said, having a nice long action in a different caliber isn't a bad idea either.  Choices... (and I can't do both :-))

Opinions and experiences welcome.
Thanks, Hawk.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2016, 08:07:30 AM by Hawk45 »

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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2016, 10:41:29 AM »
Welcome to the Nation!!! I purchased a Mark V ULW in 6.5-300 Weatherby and absolutely love it. The ULW weighs 6 3/4 lbs in the magnum calibers and only 5 3/4 in the regular calibers (270, 308, 30-06 etc.). Since you reload I honestly would skip the 308 and try something different. The 257, 270 and 6.5-300 Bees would all easily fill a niche and be fun and interesting. The ammo for the 257 Weatherby is fairly inexpensive at < $40 a box too.  If your looking for something really light, I would just go with the 270 win. and skip the 308. You never mentioned your budget either?  🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2016, 01:28:49 PM »
Thanks for the input. 

I'm look at the Vanguard Series, either the Wilderness or Back Country.  While I don't need an ultralight, starting with a sub 7 lb rifle will allow me to put a nice durable optic on it, which usually equates to weight.

I've been thinking of going to something more exotic and the Weatherby rounds are impressive, but there is something about availability of standard ammo if mine ever gets lost on a trip. 

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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2016, 01:51:04 PM »
I keep my ammo in a hard case with my rifle, that way if I lose one I lose both. Go with a Backcountry in 308 or 270, but if it were me I'd chose a 257 Weatherby. I have a S1 and an Accuguard, both in 257 Bee. Neither of my 270 Win. have left the safe since I bought my first 257.
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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2016, 05:00:21 PM »
I'll admit, I have been researching the .257WB...  just had to go plant that seed didn't ya.

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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2016, 06:41:37 PM »
Now your talking.
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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2016, 07:24:20 PM »
Yep my vote would go for a lightweight .257 Weatherby.
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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2016, 08:01:56 PM »
In your situation I would stick with a 308.

As you say you are set up to reload. It's more than you need for your stated purpose. You have infinitely more range of bullets available compared to the 270.

But you state that you already have a couple 308's. Any thoughts on simply restocking one of them to "lighten things up" (not trying to talk you out of a new rifle, we never truly have enough, but...)

The 257 Wby would be an "excellent" deer caliber. In fact, I "would" use it for moose - but the brass can be expensive, it gobbles powder (compared to the non-mag calibers) and it is just plain "the loudest gun I own and have ever heard" :)

I own a number of "suitable" deer calibers - 243, 25.06 (maybe a contender if you are wanting a "long action"), 257 Wby, 6.5 Creed, 7.08 (my moose gun), 30-30 and 30.06 but when I'm hunting Bambi in the rifle season it's my VGII 243 that comes with me - don't need anything more than that and it's "bambi deadly" out to 400 yards - about 350 yards further then I have ever had to shoot...

 
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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2016, 12:41:46 AM »
I'll admit, I have been researching the .257WB...  just had to go plant that seed didn't ya.

If you have already been researching a 257 Wby, then there is a good chance that seed has already sprouted,  ;D
you'll enjoy the 257  8)

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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2016, 04:42:45 AM »

But you state that you already have a couple 308's. Any thoughts on simply restocking one of them to "lighten things up" (not trying to talk you out of a new rifle, we never truly have enough, but...)


I have thought about that for sure, but by the time I rebarrel them to a lighter contour and swap out the stocks, I'm at about the same cost of a new rifle.  One is a Savage, and being the easiest to modify, I'd still be over $550 for a stock and barrel.

Plus I have that hankering to try a Weatherby  ;D

Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2016, 06:47:40 AM »
You will love the 257 Wby. If you have the itch for a Weatherby,might as well get a Weatherby caliber. :o
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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2016, 07:18:15 AM »
Get the 257 Weatherby. The is for it are no mote or less than  those for a 270 Win. Reloading I the easiest way to ensure the right load for the animal.  120gn bullets can be the right medicine for big game or the 100gn TTSX or TSX for deer.

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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2016, 06:32:25 PM »
Another vote for the 257 Weatherby. You already have a 300 Wby and several 308's, so you have dedicated big game rifles. How would the 270, which happens to be a great caliber, be different from what you already have to kill big game, if as you say you needed something bigger down the road? The 257 Wby delivers as much as 1000 ft lbs of energy out to 600 yards if you dare take a shot like that. Its about the most flat shooting cartridge and most DRT round you will ever need for med game. 
+1 for the 257 Wby for your application as I see it.
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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2016, 07:13:07 PM »
The .270 Winchester has been referred to as "The Beltless Magnum" and with good reason, it can accomplish a lot of things within reason.  Jack O'Conner was one of if not the biggest fan of the .270 Winchester, used it on a huge variety of animals, and praised it to the high heavens.  I have a Vanguard VGX in .270 Winchester and shot lots of deer with it.  One of the most thought provoking was when I shot a mature white-tailed doe with it, caught it behind the shoulder and took out the entire brisket on the way out.  There was about a three foot in diameter circle full of hair and ten feet further she laid dead as a door nail.  Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the .257 Weatherby, it's a great caliber and has ballistics to match.  I have one but I never shot anything with it other than paper but I will be the first to say there's hardly any recoil from it and it's very accurate.  If you're on a budget and want to save money I would opt for the .270 Winchester because of the heavier bullet weights available, up to 150 grains, cheaper brass, and cheap factory loaded ammo that you can find in any gun shop around.
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Re: .308 or .270 more practical for my situation?
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2016, 05:54:27 PM »
The 270 winchester is a very impressive cartridge,  it will push a 130 grain bullet at 3100 feet per second from a 22 inch a barrel. Reloader 22 or 19 powder will do the trick.

The 308 winchester,  easy to reload and accurate....hard choice.