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loading a 460 WM

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loading a 460 WM
« on: July 03, 2018, 05:35:11 PM »
Hi all - trust you can assist. I recently purchased a 460 WM, and cannot work out how to load the magazine. Unfortunately the gun shop was not of much assistance - do you push the rounds forward into the chamber then press down and back into the magazine?

They cannot be top loaded like the other Mk5's I have.

On another note, the recoil is overrated - off the bench with 500gn loads with break it was manageable - off hand with the break removed, also with 500gn factory loads it was still manageable.

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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2018, 05:45:54 PM »
Hmmm that sounds strange... Are they factory or Reloaded ammo? What make of Mark V is it? The only thing that I can think of is if they are relaods then COAL is too long.

I am with you on recoil of the .460. I find mine with the old pendeltone break on it rather quite comfortable to shoot. Unfortunately I cannot remove this type of break so think I may get another .460 sometime in the future...
Aussie gun nut.

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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 06:15:59 PM »
no, factory ammo - are the rounds supposed to press down into the magazine?

when I look down into it, there is some wider sections towards the front of the magazine walls - perhaps it has been reversed?


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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 06:16:32 PM »
sorry, its a brand new Mk5 Deluxe

Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 07:07:20 PM »
Does your rifle has the standard magazine(hold 2 shells) or the drop magazine(holds 3 shells). All my Mark V DGR's have the drop magazine kit, and they are a real pain to load though the top. That is because they are designed to strip the cartridge from the center of the magazine like a single stack mag. I heard it gets easier over time to load shells though the top, but I found the easiest way to load them, is to turn the rifle up side down, open the floor plate, put in 3 shells, and close the floor plate, turn the rifle right way up, and work the bolt to strip the cartridge up into the chamber. Once you are used to it, you can reload the rifle quite fast this way. I was going to modify the lips on the top of the mag for faster top loading, but after doing it this way I didn't modify them.  8)

Rob
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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2018, 07:35:33 PM »
thanks for the assistance - no, its a standard mag - 2+1.

All my other mk 5's 300's and 257 are staggered and easily loadable from the top.

I actually did what you suggested and loaded from the bottom - that worked. Just thought there may have been a trick loading from the top.

there are some indentations in the lips towards the chamber end - I was not sure whether they were there to enable a round to be manually pushed partway into the chamber then fed back into the mag via the indentations?

Cheers

Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2018, 11:15:19 PM »
If you do find a trick for loading from the top without much effort, let me know about it. I have yet,to figure out a way, to top load them as fast, and without fighting with it, as from the bottom.  8)

Rob

cfp-223REM
accumark-223Rem
ultralite-240 Wby
synthetic-240 Wby
synthetic-257 Wby
ultralite-270 Wby
fibermark-270 Wby
accumark-270 Wby
accumark-7mm Wby
stainless-300 Wby
fibermark-300Wby
accumark-30378 Wby
fibermark-340 Wby
accumark-338378 Wby
custom-375 Wby
DGR-378 Wby
DGR-416 Wby
custom DGR-460 Wby

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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2018, 03:50:47 PM »
Perhaps a task for the weekend! Ill have a crack from the top - but happy to load by releasing the floor plate!


Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2018, 04:08:11 PM »
Press down on the bullet near the middle of the case.  That's what I do, it does take more pressure to load these magazines opposed to the ones that have the bullets staggered but it's not a big effort.
Nothing is better than a Weatherby, big bore magnum, or a Colt.

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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2018, 04:27:27 PM »
thanks - that's from the top?

cheers

Yes, I have never had an issue with the staggered mag's - the only other straight-line centerfire mag's I have (Sako 75) they drop out and are loaded from the top like most rimfires.

Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2018, 07:47:42 PM »
Press down on the bullet near the middle of the case.  That's what I do, it does take more pressure to load these magazines opposed to the ones that have the bullets staggered but it's not a big effort.

This way works ok(but not the best and still some fighting) on my 378, but not so well on my 416 or 460, but if you try it and works on your rifle ASF, cool.

Rob
cfp-223REM
accumark-223Rem
ultralite-240 Wby
synthetic-240 Wby
synthetic-257 Wby
ultralite-270 Wby
fibermark-270 Wby
accumark-270 Wby
accumark-7mm Wby
stainless-300 Wby
fibermark-300Wby
accumark-30378 Wby
fibermark-340 Wby
accumark-338378 Wby
custom-375 Wby
DGR-378 Wby
DGR-416 Wby
custom DGR-460 Wby

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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2018, 10:53:12 PM »
thanks - as I will also reload it, having some lighter pills for pig and deer size game, I would not want to hurt the belts on the cases.

I know 125gn of AR2213SC (which I think is H4831 in the USA) behind a 300gn Nosler BT does a great job!

Only other load tried to date is 115gn of AR2209 (which I think is H4350) behind a 500gn Swift A frame.

Before this largest rifle owned was a 300 Weatherby (no brake), but I'm starting to love these big bores!

Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2018, 08:36:33 AM »
Yes the way I described is loading the magazine from the top.  I load my .338-378 and .460 the way I mentioned.  In the beginning it was tough to push them down but the more I did it the lips of the magazine opened up slightly to make it easier.  Also the more I do it the more I got use to it and didn't notice it being as hard as it was the first few times. 
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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2018, 04:12:13 PM »
thanks - as I will also reload it, having some lighter pills for pig and deer size game, I would not want to hurt the belts on the cases.

I know 125gn of AR2213SC (which I think is H4831 in the USA) behind a 300gn Nosler BT does a great job!

Only other load tried to date is 115gn of AR2209 (which I think is H4350) behind a 500gn Swift A frame.

Before this largest rifle owned was a 300 Weatherby (no brake), but I'm starting to love these big bores!


So seeing as you are using ADI powders I take it you are an Aussie too?
I have had great success using 2206H with 500 grain projectiles in my .460 wby. I tried 2213sc and 2209 which one would think would be perfect for that big case but neither gave as good a result as 2206H for some reason. But every rifle is different.
I am getting right at 2600fps with the big 500gr Barnes TSX.
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Re: loading a 460 WM
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2018, 04:46:02 PM »
Damn BB. That would put some hurt on any and everything. :o
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