I remember the Howard Hill clips from YEARS ago. Tom Knapp did pass away not too long ago. I have seen him twice at a Texas Parks And Wildlife Expo. He was pretty amazing, and with a pump shotgun yet. He made the comment of, "I like pumps, because I hate waiting for an automatic to cycle." One funny trick he did, was "Making Salad." I cannot remember if he threw, or had someone else throw heads of cabbage, tomatoes, onions, potatoes, salad dressing in a plastic jar, and such, and of course, he busted them all. When he did the six or seven clay birds, that HE would throw all at once; I do not see how he could even throw that many, that far. My Dad told me, that once when he was young, they were able to go to the County Fair, and there was "a man" shooting the Indian Chief silhouettes on tin sheets with a .22. Dad said he was shooting a "Winchester Automatic;" apparently he and his buddies lusted for one of those. I bet that was Adolph Toepperwein, who was from the San Antonio area. Wouldn't ANY of us love to have one of those Indians framed, SIGNED, and hanging on our wall. MM