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Looking for a 4 season Wall or Bell tent with stove jack

Looking for a 4 season Wall or Bell tent with stove jack
« on: January 06, 2022, 11:40:19 AM »
This last years Deer and Elk hunts were a disaster,  Hunted Kaibab 12Aw early Deer hunt ,  seen little bambi's almost every day little stuff nothing worth shooting.  Way too many people, previous fires moved the Deer out, even the local loggers were not seeing Deer in any numbers and we didn't see any big ones and we were up there before opening day and left the day before closing hunting non- stop from way before daylight and getting back after dark each day, and we covered most of the whole unit.  Guys I talked with said they would never hunt this early hunt again and I agree.   Our Bull Elk hunt was even worst Unit 9 later hunt,  again too many hunters ,  hunted every day except the  last day afternoon.   Elk in small numbers seen a few nothing we could get on, same thing up before daylight and back after dark and I only seen one Bull that was taken a nicer Bull to be honest we knew going in it was going to be a hard hunt,  weather was warm,   It wasn't hard there just wasn't Elk,  a few and that was it and we covered the whole unit with the exception of the far western boundry in the open flats which we could see.   I will never hunt this unit again either.  I think if it had snowed a lot it would have pushed the elk into the unit. Hell we got bigger and far more Elk where I live, so there isn't a need for me to travel.
Now for the bad part we lost my son's old 1 ton diesel truck and my 18 ft hunting trailer in an accident the trailer got away from him and jack knifed on the freeway in front of a semi and got hit ,  I was behind him in my 3/4 ton Dodge truck  towing a car hauler trailer with my sxs Honda 1000-5.  I got out of the way and stopped up the freeway a few hundred yds , I honestly thought it killed him , but he walked away without a scratch,  no one was hurt in any vehicle,  his truck wasn't as badly hurt as we first thought , bent frame, front clip  are toast, the trailer is going to be crushed at the metal yard.  trailer tagged the steel flat bed on my son's truck and pretty much destroyed the trailer in the process another semi clipped the side of the trailer not as bad as I thought in any case neither are going to be replaced were't worth any money anyway.  AZ  Highway patrol and tow company were absolutely great,   first class and professional all the way.   Anyway not going to buy another trailer for hunting  I'm getting too old and trailers too expensive especially for Toy Haulers I wouldn't get the use out of it,  so we are either going to hunt out of our house locally,  buy a new tent (I have an old one which is pretty ragged) or stay in a motel and have a hot shower and TV.  Probably a lot cheaper to just stay in motels than buying new gear.  I did pull the 4 burner propane stove/oven out of the trailer  the next day and later  built a short stand for it with little pots and pans storage and 3/8" plywood  wind break for outside or tent cooking came out very nice. will hold a 20 pound turkey in the oven along with baking pies and biscuits and such.  My Dad had one and was the camp cook for the younger guys so I got the idea from what he had.   I was actually looking at a 16 ft poly canvas Bell type tent with stove jack,   4 season  tents easier to put up and won't mildew so bad as Army canvas and a little lighter weight  to move around and set up.  I'm seeing a lot more of these Bell Tents locally in long term hunt camps so they must be pretty decent tents.  I would go with a Kodiak / Spring Bar 10 x 14 but I think it's a little small for us, and doesn't have a stove jack.   Wall tent would be nice for 2 guy's to set up maybe 13 x 16 or there about's nothing smaller.  Wall tents just for me to set up are a pain  especially in bad weather.  I'm looking for easier / faster  set-up.  We have a pretty decent 13 x 13 shade canopy we can  tarp the  sides on and  cook in with 2 larger wooden portable heavy duty tables for cooking stuff, works real well when anchored down with re-bar stakes and good rope   in the wind.   We are going to tow an 18 ft  car hauler trailer with Honda sxs behind  the truck the trailer is also set-up with a chest freezer on the front ran by a generator to keep any boned out meat from spoiling in our AZ heat.  Generator had frame damage in the accident my son thinks he can build a new frame  for it I don't know. 
« Last Edit: January 07, 2022, 07:07:14 PM by zoniezonie »

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Re: Looking for a 4 season Wall or Bell tent with stove jack
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2022, 01:23:45 PM »
That tent can be found by googling it. $$$ !   :)

Re: Looking for a 4 season Wall or Bell tent with stove jack
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2022, 10:30:06 PM »
I was thinking along the lines if anyone here on the nation actually had/has a Bell tent and got their opinions as how it held up as compared to Wall tents.  Cost is not the primary concern ease of set-up and how they hold up in snow country is my main concern.    Trailers are fine for fare weather hunting or if you have to bail out leaving them stuck in the snow for a few weeks plus, they freeze up when filled with water when left un-attended, during snow weather we always kept our trailer dry (no water) so we didn't break pipes when we run out of propane heat,   this is where good tents with a stove can make the difference.  We have vehicles that will get in some pretty deep snow or chain up all 4's with a set of 40's.   When it's that bad the Elk aren't there anyway they have moved down so a more normal elk mobile works just fine for the most part.  If we have to I have several friends with snow machines we can use.   My main thing is we can set a tent up well in advance and leave it there until season is over then come back and take it down, that's what most outfitters who use tents do anyway.    Bring a good chain saw or two and keep a national weather service radio handy mine is a hand crank with battery back-up and we do use it. 
« Last Edit: January 06, 2022, 10:34:26 PM by zoniezonie »

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Re: Looking for a 4 season Wall or Bell tent with stove jack
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2022, 05:24:43 AM »
Itís not a Bell, but l went with the Cabelas Alaknak tent. Main reason ease of setup on solo hunts. Only issue with it is condensation can be a problem. You have to pay close attention to venting. Other than that it has been in high winds, 50mph, all day rains in Colorado mountains, snow storm with wind in Montana, and cold and windy 4 season in Colorado elk hunting in the mountains, with no problems. Very happy with the tent
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Re: Looking for a 4 season Wall or Bell tent with stove jack
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2022, 05:36:57 AM »
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Re: Looking for a 4 season Wall or Bell tent with stove jack
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2022, 07:29:15 PM »
Thanks Mike,  we have used older Army GP smalls , the Artic versions,  great tents just way too heavy.   these did condensate also, but they were warm.  I'm really stuck on the synthetic canvas I have a friend that loaned his larger wall tent to his son and his buddy of course they said they dried it out properly and they didn't now it's pretty much mildewed & discolored,  ruined.   I think the Alaknak would work ok for us , but would need to go with the middle sized version If I decided to go with it.  I'm still thinking the single pole bell design.  Eventually I will give up hunting so I'll give it to my son most likely and then I'll become the camp cook and sit back with a  1.750 ml bottle of Canadian Whiskey,  lean a rifle next to a tree and be happy. 

Re: Looking for a 4 season Wall or Bell tent with stove jack
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2022, 07:49:10 PM »
Camp cooks can be quite successful at filling tags ;D
Good Hunting And Shooting To all
Derrill