I wonder what happened to Oregon Jim , Dubyan, and Mikey from Oregon he hasn't been on here for years. There was another guy a NAS Car builder who moved to Washington State forgot his name haven't heard from him in years also. Hope they are ok. As for shooting these types of groups at anything past 1000 yds I got to see it to believe it let alone 2000 + Yds. The 30-378 was kind of the in thing when came out and started getting some traction. It's a very good long range caliber and several aquaintances I know use it here in AZ for long range cross canyon Coues deer and Elk. Plinking targets at 1000 yds + ranges is one thing, and actually taking big game at these longer ranges is a whole different ball game. One thing without getting into the quick load programs and tinker with what if's it would not surprise me for someone to push a really light off the shelf bullets , with the right powder, in excess of 4000 fps + in a 30-378 in a 30 " barrel, but then you start increasing bullet drops at these extended ranges when using lighter bullets.