DW, I'll have to agree with you. I recently watch The Western Hunter show, and the publisher of some magazine was hunting in Colorado public land. The 1/2 hr show was of his 5 day hunt in the mountains of Colorado, and even though he did see deer, he was never able to get a shot on a deer. The show ended with him going home empty handed, but he did say that he didn't considered going home empty handed a failure. I thought it was a good show, and I don't personally mind seeing these guys not get a deer. It happens, and it's a fact of life. The other Yahoos who all the time end up shooting monster bucks, doesn't do it for me.