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Boy that's going to have some ramifications in other States also.  In AZ and others I wonder if this judgment carries over to other States or would the other States have to file their own lawsuit ? 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 12 gage pump
« on: March 15, 2025, 04:14:32 PM »
Derrill just reading what the guys have said a stocked pistol with a brace might  not a bad idea as a special purpose home defense weapon,  a bad guy that knows what he is doing with a knife could be on you within a couple seconds they say  that's not a lot of time to react.  I really don't like the idea of flash lights in a dark room or hallway every body and their brother knows where you are. I think I'd rather get the house lights on and sit tight  until 911 gets there , we don't have kids in the house anymore  unless we have guests,   flash lights only is kind of like a 2 edged sword it's good when you need it but with downsides. I guess it's better to have it and not need it than not having it at all.  if it were in the house the dogs are going to go after them if it went outside and the dogs weren't with us a pistol might not be the best choice if the ranges start expanding.  so many things to think about  it would be harder to wrestle a 2 handed gripped pistol or long gun away from you.   

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 12 gage pump
« on: March 15, 2025, 02:55:53 PM »
Derrill,   I really don't know anything about the Smith SD 40,  I'd get some you tubes on them and check out their reviews.  Norma broke her knee & shin bone very badly almost a year ago 18 pins, plates, bone graft, and 2 surgeries and it's still not right,  looking possible for another surgery later we just don't know,  she retired and stopped hunting she will still go but not hunt.  Brandon is doing fine still hunting and shed hunting,  I screwed up on a couple cow elk 2 years ago  down the road near the wildlife habitat area when the muzzleloader didn't go bang or they were one behind the other and couldn't shoot.  Brandon has taken a couple 6x6 nice bulls  the last few years he passed on a monster 6 by maybe 200 yds skylighted on a ridge broadside,   and didn't want to take a chance of where the bullet would go,  he shot one bull at 832 yds with his 300 wby MKV  a bunch of us watching not like a lot of pressure,  you could see the vapor trail looking like a soft ball till it hit. cold late Nov morning about 8000 ft elev,  had a hard time ranging that bull out in that new growth Aspens,  I couldn't range it in my older Leica,   another friend was having trouble with his pulled the battery out of mine and gave it to him still couldn't get a range I tried  Brandons Vortex 1800 RF couldn't pick up a range another friend used his new Leupold and finally got the range and he shot,  after that I went out and bought a Vortex Fury AB 5000  I like it so far  a lot of features I probably never use.  hard to get drawn anymore especially for Bull.  Brandon and I were up on an Antelope hunt  1 1/2 hr to the north west of us I guess about 4 yrs ago we were watching a 400 Bull for a couple days no elk tags of course he had probably 50 to 60 cows with him and a couple lesser Bulls in the rear didn't see any Antelope I wanted to shoot so I went home empty,  Brandons was spotting using that wide angle Kowa 82mm you could see the ripples in his skin it's so clear.   you still have my phone # ?    I haven't tried to get tags on the RES after Covid  things are different I think.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 12 gage pump
« on: March 15, 2025, 02:15:50 PM »
Derrill :   if it were me I would  get a used Winchester 1200 defender speed pump  they are real smooth and reliable.  the Mossbergs and I have them are a little  bite-e when quick loading,  newer  Remington 870's aren't too bad,  the older 870 can get what they call the 870 jam where if you short stroke while loading the shell in the tube would not catch and  shell would slip under the loading lever and lock up the whole gun making it useless,  the newer 870's corrected this issue.  the other 2 guns that are just killer are the older pump Ithaca 37 and the old pump Winchester model 12's both of these older models can be slam fired when you rack the slide. hold the trigger down and keep pumping very fast. if you are in an apartment 7 1/2's are going to do a lot of damage to a person at close range, drywall is dry wall a good pellet gun can penetrate the walls.  I keep 2 shotguns laying around where I can get to them a single shot chubby 18.5 " bbl and a 20" choked Mossberg 500 both of these shotguns  I keep  7 1/2  bird shot,  followed by # 4 buck shot # 4 buckshot will tear  4x4 post in half if you are close enough,   followed by a slug ,  2 3/4 or 3 " shells it really doesn't matter  12 ga is going to do a lot of damage.   If I were really pissed get a semi auto  combat Benelli or Remington 1100/1187 extend the tube to around 10 to 11 rounds and keep a few speed loaders handy.  that's a joke of course. ;D,  you know my Turkey gun as a little youth model Mossberg  3 " Bantam 20 ga with a little 20"  bbl with choke tubes, very light weight gun and it will knock the dog snot out of a Turkey at 30 yds.   the question is always what to use a hand gun or rifle or shotgun.   I can't answer that question to be honest I keep all 3 handy around the house and we have 3 dogs that bark at everything.

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I used Buck knives along with the larger folding Case knives  when I was in the Navy back then you could drive over to El Cajon just east of San Diego and see the Buck factory when it was there,    every now and then our  little local swap meet you can get some pretty good deals on used Buck knives and others I kind of like the older Western Boulder skinners also.

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Very good info ! I personally like Sellier & Bellot ammo I don't use a lot of it mostly in the 338 stuff so I can get the 338 brass,  another  company  Privi Partizan ammo & component bullets is often over looked  a little less expensive and shoots pretty good.   I will buy component bullets from them in different 6.5's  and 7mm wby,  6.5 Grendel ammo when I see it on the shelves. 

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grizzly340 !  sorry I didn't catch the last part of your post,   No our 257's  shoot 7828 regular and 7828 short cut differently.  IMO I think the problem with switching back and forth long cut vs short cut it's awfully hard to get an exact exact  match  and it's the same using different lots of powder.  if a person really wanted to keep it to the ninth degree it's better to buy in 8 lb kegs or 1 pounders out of the same lot .  When I load these long cut powders I measure them one at a time and in the 257's I started off first with the regular 7828 and then the short cut version because I was running out of long cut 7828 at the time was harder for me to find locally.    I suppose if I had started off with the short cut first  and found a good load for it  may be the other way around.  both our 257 members rifles shoot pretty much the same accuracy and velocities with 7828 .  I did have pretty good results  with Norma MRP and RL22,   I do have a can the old MRP2   I haven't  seen a need for using yet. 

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lots of problems out there today my son is running into car parts issues with automotive foundry castings. 

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Thanks for the info,   always nice to have other sources of components

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: The loons are out there
« on: March 14, 2025, 09:03:20 AM »
Yep !  what everyone said

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Shortages
« on: March 13, 2025, 11:31:44 AM »
when we get over regulated whatever the products may be  oil, mining, etc.,  it always comes back to bite us.  I totally get it when new products come out that are better, more useful,  fills a wider application  then some of the older products get discontinued,  I don't like it but that's just how it is.   a little off the subject  I would much rather be driving a vehicle that I can fix,  work on and re-build, something like my old 72 Chevelle,  or 68 Mustang GTA, or 70 Torino GT or  1970 Ford F-250 , even my old 73 jeep CJ-5 which I had to fix something after every hunting trip.  I regret to this day selling any of these vehicles only If I  knew then what the future held I would be a happy camper.  the guys are right and  I said this a long time ago when it comes to components if you see it buy it ,  I guess it comes to a point of how much do you actually need or need in the future and that comes down to you.  sometimes it's better not to think just buy it.  I have been trying to consolidate basically what powders can I live with re-loading for different cartridges and still have good results, easier said than done as new powders are always coming out that offer sometimes a substantial leap in fps vs the older powders,  can't help myself  somtimes.

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This brings up another point  ammo and component availability / shortages it's getting better but still not to where it should be.   when my son and I  bought our Weatherby Nation members rifles  the only 25 cal I had was a 25-35 and 25 acp, a good friend of mine had got in a bunch of 25 cal rifle bullets a guy was getting out of reloading & hunting he asked me if I needed any price was cheap so I bought all of them it was like 30 boxes of various 25 cal bullets of different weights/types and manufacturers it took me about a year to finally get a load I was happy with for both rifles.  I still had to add different bullets to the bunch to find the right 2 or 3 bullets.  Scirocco 100 gr and Accubond 110 gr. both behind stiff loads of IMR-7828 and now come to find out no more 7828  discontinued ,  that happens every now and them,  I love HS-7 in a 10mm auto but no more. to my point when you do find a really good load stock up on components or ammo

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Winds of March
« on: March 05, 2025, 08:20:55 AM »
last week started stage one fire restrictions in my area , a little breezy , a little snow that didn't stick,  and drier than a popcorn fart.   

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The guy's have brought up a lot of good points and there is really no wrong or right answer it all depends on what you are comfortable with.  (range) how far is the target that's the killer  there is just too many variables to take into consideration when you start stretching the ranges. unless you practice, practice, practice. I do agree if you are going to hunt with dials in various elevations for instance 3000 to 10000 ft I absolutely think about having  several dials made up probably 3.    remember these dials are load / bullet  specific,  JBM is no difference.  that means you have to find rifle / bullet combination that is absolutely most importantly consistently accurate and with a bullet with a construction made for the game animal you intend to shoot. one of the reasons I don't use bullets that are lightly constructed for anything larger than deer there are only 3 or  4  favorite rifles that I hunt any big game with in the lower 48 and I could choke that down to 2 rifles and all of these rifles I only load the most accurate best constructed controlled expansion bullets that are made to drive deep and break everything in it's path I don't like tracking animals because of a bullets failure especially down deep canyons.  this is why I may go over gunned on lesser animals but at least I know it will get the job done, the other advantage is being confident with that rifle,  and not taking a different rifle / scope combo every year or two.  it's a tool you get use to them.  I won't even get into ammo & component shortages that just throws another ringer into the pot,  anyway find a couple rifles scope combo's you have confidence in and stick with them. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: 257wby build ?
« on: March 03, 2025, 08:53:33 AM »
I don't know on that one different cartridge lengths.  I suppose if you had rifles in both cartridges you could pull the floor plates and see if they are any differences,  maybe the 257 has a choked down magazine length i.e. spacer to limit internal length ?  possibly different spring and follower good question though.  A good gunsmith specializing in this conversion probably needs to be called.

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