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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 12, 2025, 08:16:17 PM »
Perfect !  thanks Dino ,    now if a company would make it in a high powered centerfire.    I almost think a design of lightweight carbon fiber some type of a reinforced mesh could be used to defuse /deaden / redirecting gases  in a slim full length system. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 12, 2025, 01:45:27 PM »
maybe some company has already built one I don't know, I would like to see a thin suppressor that's literally built into / around the full length of the barrel rather than a can on the end.  nothing longer than the barrel itself.  if you can make a sleeved carbon fiber wrapped barrel you could likely come up with a lightweight built in suppressor. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 11, 2025, 08:52:46 PM »
where I have the biggest problem with brass cases  when re-loading on the hot side is primer pockets opening up,  I do think all brass cases are not created equal some I think are just stronger than others,  we all know when building ammo it's to be kept within saami or cip specs which make for safe ammo for the most part but they are also looking at one brass shot, not repeated use of that one piece of brass specially for re-loaders in mind.  this is where it becomes interesting,  I can take brand x brass it might be a little heavier weight with less h20 capacity and it can build higher pressures which is ok imo they are all suppose to be held to saami pressure specs,  we are talking major ammo makers not wild catting a cartridge that's a different animal. now you take brand y case it's lighter in weight , more h20 capacity and still held to sammi pressure specs and I might get more actual times reloading that case before it wears out than brand x  or vice versa it just depends.  another thing that gets interesting if the ammo makers are using saami or cip models,  they are different,  saami mostly american  cip european for the most part.  there are differences between the two, another thing  who is doing the testing and how good they follow the testing procedures to the letter , we know saami and cip are different,  are they using the older cup-lup method or are they using the piezo method or maybe a combination of both.  there s whole lot more involved in these test that would take books to study.   if they wanted  I would think  could build guns that could handle  more pressures,  same with ammo makers , same with primer makers,  plus re-loading equipment makers could make stronger presses and dies , but where does it end in practical terms.  personally I think all this bumping up pressures in baby steps in the evolutionary process rather than thinking outside the box with revolutionary  ideas, 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 10, 2025, 01:13:11 PM »
a little over 10 years ago a couple friends wildcatted a 257/300 ultra mag,  Van Horn build the barrels for them,  they were pushing well over 4000 fps with 100 grainers ,  the downside was custom dies had to be made, and at the time a lack of suitable powders , I think they could probably push a little faster today,  one of them just died a couple weeks ago and I'll talk to the other when I get a chance.  when they were being built  I told them why not just go to a 6.5mm instead but they wanted a 257 caliber.  a 6.5 in an ultra mag case would be a screamer. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 08, 2025, 10:06:26 PM »
while I do like new things for the most part,  for what I do (re-load) I don't see  any real advantage for me personally.  while I can safely load my 300 wby's  to 3300 fps using 180's,  I never like stretching the boundaries so I back my 300 loads off to a little under 3200 fps, get better accuracy also in my rifles.  I have certain goto rifles I have confidence in so I don't see a need or want unless something so advanced or better I can't be without .  until someone produces  a lightweight  7 pound recoilless rifle with great accuracy  shooting a high b/c heavy bullet @ 4000 fps comes  along that might get my attention.

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You might want to read about (OCW) Optimal Charge Weight.   I kind of do a little different version in my ladder testing.  I pick a bullet, I try to pick a powder with the highest book velocity with the lowest pressures not a hard and fast rule as some known powders in some cartridges have become favorites with a lot of  good re-loaders. initially don't worry about seating depths that will come later,  same brass, same bullet, same primer as you normally would.  In my ladder test I don't look totally for group size but rather where each group prints on the paper.  when you find groups  when ladder testing  that print in basically the same place on the target start fine tuning charge weights and seating depths with those loads.  in other words you may shoot group 1 and it prints high and left , group 2 might shoot high and right,  group 3 might shoot high and right also, group 4 might shoot again high and right,  all are these are within reason of course,  you are looking for a node where the bullet exits the barrel at the same barrel whip in simple terms.   now take these loads and fine tune 1/2 grain  to 1 grain at a time depending upon medium to large  rifle cartridge size and see if the groups tighten,  of course you start low on your charge weights and work up safely re-loading 101.  once you get decent groups start testing bullet seating depths and see where it leads.  every rifle likes what it likes so if you have to change bullets & powders , different brands and weights that's just part of the game.  primers do make differences , but I tent to stick with certain brands in different applications.  I swear by Wolf small rifle primers in a 5.56 using TAC and 55 grain bullets in my rifles. I use Win WLRM primers in my mags although CCI Mags work also.  nothing wrong with other brands as long as it works for you.  one thing I  have found and I'm absolutely anal about stock bedding ,  all of my Weatherby's MK V's and Vanguards with the exception of a deluxe 7mm wby mag too darn pretty to scratch up.   I have glass bedded to get best consistency.  now I don't test my rifles shooting 3 shots and let it sit for  year,  I will test them until I'm happy with them,  I get them hot come back the next day or next week and do the same,  I want to see consistency from yesterday to next year so I don't have to worry about where this or that rifle is shooting.  I have rifles and ammo I haven't shot in 5 years plus and they still shoot in the same place.  that's because they are bedded right with good tested ammo and good scopes.

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if it were me I would look at some type of electronic ear plugs try www.earinc.com  Insta-Mold  these are at the upper end and a little pricy.  these are great for shotgun shooters and rifle shooters that don't want ear muffs getting in the way,  also a lot of competition handgun shooters use electronic plugs they need to hear range commands that don't get in the way.  if you wanted you can always  wear ear muffs over the electronic ear plugs for those times you need double ear protection.  back in the day I was fitted from the factory rep for non electronic  Insta-Molds plugs these older plugs are made out of silicone injected into each ear and let harden (basically no one else can use them as they are a perfect fit to your ear.) over the plugs I sometimes wear Pro Ears electronic muffs still have both today. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Getting your scope level
« on: December 24, 2024, 08:15:21 PM »
on all my longer range rifle/scope combo's I install bubble levels on the scopes although on some other long range I went to Talley 20 moa Picatinny bases with the bubble level installed the back of the Picatinny base itself they are pretty slick and eliminates something hanging off the scope. the other thing about this type of system it's easier to just look down on the scope and see your level,  the down side is these little levels are sitting right where the rail base screws are sitting so once you mount the rail you super glue the bubble in place it's not coming out unless you break the bubble vile unless Talley has improved the design anyway it's not a big deal Talley told me to give him a call if I ever needed to pull the Picatinny rail.    I will use a couple small levels  when needed along with a plumb bob I keep hanging off the dog run's or the fence,  i just sit in the garage and level the rifle on the shooting bench looking at the plumb bob and carefully turn the scope  until the reticle matches up with the plumb bob line on the fence, then lock it down.  I do agree use grid paper especially when checking scope tracking, normally I do this at  50 to 100 yds or so.

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I don't think it's a huge problem just separate brass and loads,  in some cases one or the other may shoot better.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Different kind of rifle
« on: December 12, 2024, 10:55:51 AM »
I would be tempted to shoot it !  cool rifle

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I bought some Federal a couple years ago don't have a rifle for it  looks to be small rifle primers to me.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: IMR 7828 In Stock Anywhere?
« on: December 12, 2024, 10:44:39 AM »
Grizzly340 :   I saw that also on Hodgdons re-loading data center,  IMR 7828 and Winchester Supreme 780 Discontinued  while looking at load data.   I don't know what the deal is on IMR Enduron 8133  good powder not a lot of load data.

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I think it would.   I have a gripe mostly about State's where I'm not allowed to carry a weapon concealed even if I have a permit from my State.  Concealed carry should be Standardized throughout all State's so there won't be any what if's.  I absolutely love going over to California to go Ocean fishing off the Boats,  BUT I also think there is a risk involved with all the crime over there.  At least in my area in Arizona pretty much everyone that is legal to carry a weapon Can !   one thing this does is make everybody think,  is that guy or girl carrying ?  there is going to be crime no matter where you are at,  but we also don't need to be un-prepared. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Scopes these days…?
« on: December 01, 2024, 05:07:56 PM »
everyone has good points imo,  we are a dying breed the kids today can't even make change without an electronic  cash register do it for them,  so why would we expect the younger generations to have the same tastes than we do. 

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I agree sometimes it's best to leave things alone be happy with the history and memories.  I have a couple rifles where I bore scoped  the barrels look just terrible,  pitted, throat worn out and still shoot moa, BUT I'm also anal about re-loading for best accuracy.  some of these old barrels  had deep grooved rifling so unless the rifling at end of the barrel was worn smooth and the barrel crown was mangled it could shoot pretty well with the right loads.  I guess it depends on just how accurate you want the rifle to be, unfortunately accuracy usually is a package deal i.e. usually re-loading for that specific rifle, how is the stock bedded, good trigger, good scopes, etc.  the RIGHT factory ammo helps a lot if you don't re-load.  consistency is the goal is the rifle going to shoot.  sighting in at 50 yds and stepping it back to 300 yds without any in between checks I don't know,  sometimes the bullet don't go to sleep until after 100 yds,  might be better to use a really big target like a giant piece of cardboard  just to see where it's hitting.  at longer ranges I use 4 ft targets at times just to see where I'm hitting.  A friend of mine just brought his rifle over for me to take a look at and just him shooting and not checking a few things like action screws his groups went from really good center mass groups to moving 12 " or so up and right almost off the paper at 100 yds just from 2 loose action screws. never assume anything until you have eliminated possible issues.  could be a scope, could be bases  or rings,   bad ammo,  half a dozen other things.

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