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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Guns let go.
« on: February 10, 2025, 06:17:08 PM »
The only one that got away was a commercial FN in 264 win mag with  Douglas premium  barrel . I sold to a buddy of mine with the understanding if he ever got rid of it I had the first dibs, that went sideways I guess he forgot and sold it without calling. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Settle a disagreement.
« on: February 02, 2025, 10:51:39 AM »
Reading a little more closely they released him in the Angeles Nation Forest , no way they would release a Grizzly Bear in the Angeles N.F. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Settle a disagreement.
« on: February 02, 2025, 08:43:08 AM »
The second set of photo's of the Bear under the house is a Black Bear,  looks like an older Bear,  size wise California is not uncommon  to have some large Black Bears in the Southern regions.  probably more in the lower Sierras but they do roam.  Color wise Black Bears are like people they can be cinnamon, gray, bald, blonde, black , brownish in colors , might even be a very light to white albino  out there someplace.  look at the claws, look at the face & hair.  Black Bears can and do get upwards of 800lbs, my dad got one that went 585 lbs and was skin and bones Canines broken, parts of the ears missing, part of the nose missing from fighting his was going bald with gray to blonde to light brown in colors.  Goverment hunter/trapper said he wouldn't have lasted the winter and would have went 800 lbs in his prime.  AZ is known to have 500 lb + bears roaming around just don't see them too often if you are out in the sticks long enough. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Chaparral
« on: January 26, 2025, 10:28:53 AM »
224KING is right !  Roadrunners here in AZ pretty much eat anything they can catch,  I had one in the garage long time ago had a 84 Lincoln Town car in the garage,  shut the garage door the Roadrunner freaked out  knocked paint cans off the shelf, scratched the Lincoln, couldn't get the garage door open fast enough.   Tuff ass Bird we had one they would sit on a boulder next to the AZ room window kind of a mirrored tint that bird would sit on that rock and beat that window with his beak I thought he was going to break the window, saw himself in the mirror. 

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100/110 gr 6mm in a 300 Wby case with a hot load I think you get 4000 fps,  old Roger was loading some very hot 300's and 257's. 

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If you click on eabco and then type in sabots and then click on 30 cal accelerator type sabots scroll down and you will find load data link,    5100 fps with a 55 gr out of a 300 wby.  I didn't read it all that carefully more of an fyi.  one thing about going that fast or faster is your drops would be cut way down,  and even for little coues deer might be something to think about,  it's kind of a catch 22 in general terms heavier sleek weight bullets make for a lot higher BC's, real heavy sleek bullets in the same bullet caliber make for even higher BC's  then you take a squatty little 55 grainer it will sure go fast but loses drop &  energy advantages as ranges extend.  you would have compare each against the others on a good BC program to see if it's even worth it, for what you want to do.  I think this kind of stuff is kind of cool just for fun.   

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www.eabco.com    in search type in sabots  it will come up with different types including 30 cal.   back in the day just fooling around played with 35 cal sabots in a 458 win mag case, definitely lighter recoil,  we ended up keyholing  the bullets used so never really went any further with it, but the idea was sound given better bullets and sabots.  one of the biggest problems with old sabots we used was I thought  the sabot wouldn't hold the bullet tight enough and sabot spun around the bullet in the barrel,  today they do make some tools to seat sabots,   in our current  world all bets are off especially if a person could make a discarding  metal or polymer sabot that came apart when exiting the barrel but has inner means of holding the bullets spin when compressed on the bullet when seating in the case.  like milled in sharp lengthwise slot or groove that holds the bullet from spinning, otherwise you are looking at a smoothbore with a discarding sabot with smooth interior built in half's, third's or quarter's that separated when exiting the barrel. 

I think it's absolutely doable today,  I saw somewhere they had velocities on 22cal in 300Wby sabots,  I don't know of any re-loading type chronographs that will go over 5000 fps,  even my new little  Garmin only goes to 5000 fps (very nice little chronograph by the way, still have my old chronograph) no doubt high end laboratory grade chronographs would be needed.  common sense would say try very heavy, med and lighter weight bullets just to see where  and if it's  stabilizing.  you might be able to get away with 2 chronographs at different ranges and calculate back to get a starting velocity, but it better be accurate enough to shoot over the distance chronograph. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 12, 2025, 08:16:17 PM »
Perfect !  thanks Dino ,    now if a company would make it in a high powered centerfire.    I almost think a design of lightweight carbon fiber some type of a reinforced mesh could be used to defuse /deaden / redirecting gases  in a slim full length system. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 12, 2025, 01:45:27 PM »
maybe some company has already built one I don't know, I would like to see a thin suppressor that's literally built into / around the full length of the barrel rather than a can on the end.  nothing longer than the barrel itself.  if you can make a sleeved carbon fiber wrapped barrel you could likely come up with a lightweight built in suppressor. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 11, 2025, 08:52:46 PM »
where I have the biggest problem with brass cases  when re-loading on the hot side is primer pockets opening up,  I do think all brass cases are not created equal some I think are just stronger than others,  we all know when building ammo it's to be kept within saami or cip specs which make for safe ammo for the most part but they are also looking at one brass shot, not repeated use of that one piece of brass specially for re-loaders in mind.  this is where it becomes interesting,  I can take brand x brass it might be a little heavier weight with less h20 capacity and it can build higher pressures which is ok imo they are all suppose to be held to saami pressure specs,  we are talking major ammo makers not wild catting a cartridge that's a different animal. now you take brand y case it's lighter in weight , more h20 capacity and still held to sammi pressure specs and I might get more actual times reloading that case before it wears out than brand x  or vice versa it just depends.  another thing that gets interesting if the ammo makers are using saami or cip models,  they are different,  saami mostly american  cip european for the most part.  there are differences between the two, another thing  who is doing the testing and how good they follow the testing procedures to the letter , we know saami and cip are different,  are they using the older cup-lup method or are they using the piezo method or maybe a combination of both.  there s whole lot more involved in these test that would take books to study.   if they wanted  I would think  could build guns that could handle  more pressures,  same with ammo makers , same with primer makers,  plus re-loading equipment makers could make stronger presses and dies , but where does it end in practical terms.  personally I think all this bumping up pressures in baby steps in the evolutionary process rather than thinking outside the box with revolutionary  ideas, 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 10, 2025, 01:13:11 PM »
a little over 10 years ago a couple friends wildcatted a 257/300 ultra mag,  Van Horn build the barrels for them,  they were pushing well over 4000 fps with 100 grainers ,  the downside was custom dies had to be made, and at the time a lack of suitable powders , I think they could probably push a little faster today,  one of them just died a couple weeks ago and I'll talk to the other when I get a chance.  when they were being built  I told them why not just go to a 6.5mm instead but they wanted a 257 caliber.  a 6.5 in an ultra mag case would be a screamer. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Federal 7BC cartridge
« on: January 08, 2025, 10:06:26 PM »
while I do like new things for the most part,  for what I do (re-load) I don't see  any real advantage for me personally.  while I can safely load my 300 wby's  to 3300 fps using 180's,  I never like stretching the boundaries so I back my 300 loads off to a little under 3200 fps, get better accuracy also in my rifles.  I have certain goto rifles I have confidence in so I don't see a need or want unless something so advanced or better I can't be without .  until someone produces  a lightweight  7 pound recoilless rifle with great accuracy  shooting a high b/c heavy bullet @ 4000 fps comes  along that might get my attention.

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You might want to read about (OCW) Optimal Charge Weight.   I kind of do a little different version in my ladder testing.  I pick a bullet, I try to pick a powder with the highest book velocity with the lowest pressures not a hard and fast rule as some known powders in some cartridges have become favorites with a lot of  good re-loaders. initially don't worry about seating depths that will come later,  same brass, same bullet, same primer as you normally would.  In my ladder test I don't look totally for group size but rather where each group prints on the paper.  when you find groups  when ladder testing  that print in basically the same place on the target start fine tuning charge weights and seating depths with those loads.  in other words you may shoot group 1 and it prints high and left , group 2 might shoot high and right,  group 3 might shoot high and right also, group 4 might shoot again high and right,  all are these are within reason of course,  you are looking for a node where the bullet exits the barrel at the same barrel whip in simple terms.   now take these loads and fine tune 1/2 grain  to 1 grain at a time depending upon medium to large  rifle cartridge size and see if the groups tighten,  of course you start low on your charge weights and work up safely re-loading 101.  once you get decent groups start testing bullet seating depths and see where it leads.  every rifle likes what it likes so if you have to change bullets & powders , different brands and weights that's just part of the game.  primers do make differences , but I tent to stick with certain brands in different applications.  I swear by Wolf small rifle primers in a 5.56 using TAC and 55 grain bullets in my rifles. I use Win WLRM primers in my mags although CCI Mags work also.  nothing wrong with other brands as long as it works for you.  one thing I  have found and I'm absolutely anal about stock bedding ,  all of my Weatherby's MK V's and Vanguards with the exception of a deluxe 7mm wby mag too darn pretty to scratch up.   I have glass bedded to get best consistency.  now I don't test my rifles shooting 3 shots and let it sit for  year,  I will test them until I'm happy with them,  I get them hot come back the next day or next week and do the same,  I want to see consistency from yesterday to next year so I don't have to worry about where this or that rifle is shooting.  I have rifles and ammo I haven't shot in 5 years plus and they still shoot in the same place.  that's because they are bedded right with good tested ammo and good scopes.

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if it were me I would look at some type of electronic ear plugs try www.earinc.com  Insta-Mold  these are at the upper end and a little pricy.  these are great for shotgun shooters and rifle shooters that don't want ear muffs getting in the way,  also a lot of competition handgun shooters use electronic plugs they need to hear range commands that don't get in the way.  if you wanted you can always  wear ear muffs over the electronic ear plugs for those times you need double ear protection.  back in the day I was fitted from the factory rep for non electronic  Insta-Molds plugs these older plugs are made out of silicone injected into each ear and let harden (basically no one else can use them as they are a perfect fit to your ear.) over the plugs I sometimes wear Pro Ears electronic muffs still have both today. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Getting your scope level
« on: December 24, 2024, 08:15:21 PM »
on all my longer range rifle/scope combo's I install bubble levels on the scopes although on some other long range I went to Talley 20 moa Picatinny bases with the bubble level installed the back of the Picatinny base itself they are pretty slick and eliminates something hanging off the scope. the other thing about this type of system it's easier to just look down on the scope and see your level,  the down side is these little levels are sitting right where the rail base screws are sitting so once you mount the rail you super glue the bubble in place it's not coming out unless you break the bubble vile unless Talley has improved the design anyway it's not a big deal Talley told me to give him a call if I ever needed to pull the Picatinny rail.    I will use a couple small levels  when needed along with a plumb bob I keep hanging off the dog run's or the fence,  i just sit in the garage and level the rifle on the shooting bench looking at the plumb bob and carefully turn the scope  until the reticle matches up with the plumb bob line on the fence, then lock it down.  I do agree use grid paper especially when checking scope tracking, normally I do this at  50 to 100 yds or so.

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