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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Colt Python
« on: December 31, 2019, 03:42:47 PM »
Let me start off by saying I'm a huge Colt fan and there isn't any colts that I truly hate.  The ones I'm not a big fan of are the Double Eagle, Cowboy, and Mustang XSP and the only one of that list that I dislike the most is the Mustang XSP.  I certainly wouldn't not buy a Double Eagle or Cowboy but they certainly on the top of my would buy list.  My biggest issue against the Cowboy was the lousy finish and rough action.  If I did buy a Cowboy I would have the action worked to smooth it out and have it refinished.  I fully understand the Cowboy was meant to be a cheap version of the Single Action Army and to compete with the Ruger Vaquero for sales from the Cowboy Action Shooters but it fell way short of doing that.  I guess we shouldn't be surprised since it was less than half the price of a Single Action Army.  If Colt put a little more quality into the gun it very well might have beat out the Vaquero in sales and popularity.  As for the Double Eagle I don't like the shape of it.  It might sound crazy but looks matter just as much in guns as they do with members of the opposite sex. 

I have a good number of Colts, love each and every one of them, and wouldn't part with them unless it was an extreme situation.  I also prefer the blued finish over stainless steel but if stainless steel was the only option I'd buy whatever it was in stainless steel.  When it comes to the Mark III's they are good revolvers and can certainly hold their own in the quality, appearance, and accuracy departments.  I have a blued six inch Trooper Mark III in .357 Magnum and have no complaints about it.  The bluing is the high quality we expect from Colt, the factory action is very smooth (it's never had any action work done), and it's accuracy is very good.

As for the new Colts that I've seen which are a dozen or so of both the Cobra and King Cobra I'm a fan of them both.  I spent a good amount of time checking each of them out very closely and based on what I saw here's my opinion of them.  The first thing that people need to do is realize and accept the fact that they ARE NOT the old Cobras and King Cobras we had years ago.  First off the spring is different and doesn't stack like the old ones did which I think is a positive improvement.  The trigger guards are shaped differently which I'd rather the rounded trigger guard of the old revolvers but that's a minor issue to me.  I'd say the biggest turn off I have on all the Cobras is that they have that stupid scan box thingy engraved into the frame.  I think it's silly and ugly.  Also as I said earlier I like the blued finish the best and wish that was an option on them.  Colt does make the Night Cobra which isn't a bad looking revolver however I don't like the bobbed hammer, it looks like someone took a hacksaw and cut off the spur.  Over all the boobed hammer isn't hideous and not a good enough reason for me not to buy one but it's reason enough for me to put it lower on my want to buy list.  When it comes to the machine work the fit and finish is high on the quality scale, not the top but definitely at least a seven or eight on a scale of one to ten.  I can't comment on the cylinder length since I never measured one.  As for the price of them I don't think it's too bad, I do think they could have a bit lower prices for the Night Cobra and Bright Cobra.  The one thing I would like to see is for Colt to offer them in a blued versions with a full hammer and have the option to get them with a ramp front sight.  So to sum it up I'd definitely buy and recommend any of the Cobras and King Cobras and will eventually be adding a few to my collection. 

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Good luck with the new scope.  Please let us know how you like it and how it works for you.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: New here from Virginia
« on: December 30, 2019, 05:59:22 PM »
Welcome to the Nation, glad to have you here with us.  What is the rifle in the picture you posted? 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: weatherby target
« on: December 30, 2019, 05:51:11 PM »
My VGX Vanguard in .270 Winchester came with a target that was purple and white and the groups I get from it are just as good as the group on the target from Weatherby.  As far as the recoil comparing the new and old Vanguards I never noticed much of a difference and I don't have any complaints about the trigger on my rifle. 

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My guess is they had to stop selling guns while the FFL paperwork got updated since the Sportsman's Warehouse was the new owner.  I've never been in a Sportsman's Warehouse but from what I've seen on their website they look like a nice store with a good variety.  In my area there's a Field and Stream but it shares a store with a Dick's so I don't think there's much hope they'll buy that one.  The only other hope is that the Sportsman's Warehouse opens up a store here.  Recently the Gander Outdoors went out of business so there's a spot they could open up, hopefully the do.  As for Field and Stream and Dick's I know they lost a ton of business at their store here because of their anti second amendment antics. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: It has finally arrived...
« on: December 30, 2019, 05:29:27 PM »
Sorry about the confusion about your name, I guess my old age gave a little hint that it's coming sooner than later.  LOL  I agree Weatherby is going to make it right for you and honestly I think they're lucky you're such a loyal customer to stand by them, lots of other people no matter if they're a new or long time customer wouldn't be thinking the way you are especially considering the price you paid for it.  A lot of them wouldn't only be on the phone raising all hell but probably a good number of them would be back at the gun store with it raising hell there to.  This is no where near the quality we've all come to know and expect from Weatherby and hopefully it's the last time something like this happens.  Beyond that I'm sure I'm not the only person who expects absolute perfection when they pay the price you paid for the rifle. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Colt Python
« on: December 30, 2019, 04:26:29 PM »
I think they absolutely have to have the Royal Blue finish as an option on it for the simple fact it's a Python.  Also the Royal Blue finish doesn't cost much more to do, just more buffing.  When I ordered my Single Action Army through their Custom Shop they didn't charge me any more for the Royal Blue finish opposed to the regular blued finish.  I've handled a few of the new Cobras and like them quite a bit.  The main reason I haven't bought one yet is I want a regular blued version with a full hammer opposed to the Night Cobra.  Also I want to get one of the King Cobra Target.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: It has finally arrived...
« on: December 30, 2019, 04:20:30 PM »
I'm glad they got back to you and are working on fixing the issues.  However the first issue is it made it's way to you with the problems and lacking the level of quality we've come to love and expect.  PARA45 is completely right that it's unacceptable and even more so because it's a custom rifle, of the price, and time you waited to get it, it should've been absolutely perfect. 

Maasjod, I fully understand they moved and lost some employees but that's no excuse for the severely lacking quality.  The problem with having to wait for the quality to return to the level prior to the move and when they lost employees is customers are going to notice it fast and it'll have bad affects on sales and customer loyalty with both long time and new Weatherby owners.  Just imagine being in Oscar's shoes, no matter if you owned lots of Weatherbys or it was your first it could very well be the first and last Weatherby rifle you ever bought.  Beyond that I'm people talk and I'm sure the Weatherby bashers are going to run with this like wild fire. 

Oscar you're a more patient and calm man than I am, if I was you I'd be livid.  I'm assuming you had to pay for it up front so please correct me if I'm wrong.  Going with the thought you had to pay for it up front you obviously were between a rock and a hard spot.  If you walked into the store and saw it you could've walked away with your money in your pocket but having paid for it up front you probably didn't have much of a choice to refuse to accept it.  On top of that you spent all that time waiting for it to get to you and when you got it this is the low level of quality you got.  I understand things happen and can be missed but all of these issues should've caught. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Colt Python
« on: December 29, 2019, 09:51:24 AM »
I've seen lots of them on Gunbroker go for well over $2,500 and lots of them has issues with the finish.  Personally I'd never pay more than $2,500 for one and it would have to be in perfect condition.  Yeah they're beautiful high quality revolvers but there's no way in hell they're worth the prices people are paying for them but there is the problem, people are paying that much and a lot more. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Colt Python
« on: December 28, 2019, 05:58:45 PM »
I've been seeing "articles" and posts that Colt is bring back their Python and it's going to be announced in January.  There was even a picture of it in several of the posts I saw online.  I don't know if it's true or not, guess we're all just going to have to sit back and wait but I certainly hope it's true and the price is reasonable.  Obviously there's the basher's club already whining that it's not the same as the original even though they haven't even handled or let alone actually seen it.  It's no secret that I'm a huge Colt fan so with the said I'm impatiently waiting to see if it's actually true and hoping the price is going to be reasonable and not obscene. 

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: It has finally arrived...
« on: December 28, 2019, 05:49:13 PM »
I agree with you completely in wondering how it made it through the quality control check.  For the price they charge for their rifles every one of them should be absolutely perfect when they leave the factory. 

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The Firedot is nice at first and last light however you have to remember to turn it on and off.  If you get into the habit of doing that it's nice but I don't see it as something that I need or must have.  Personally between the VX5-HD and VX-3i my pick would be the VX-3i because it's cheaper and has more eye relief.  The VX5 does have more adjustment but it's also a lot more expensive and heavier.

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Reloading / Re: Neck Sizing
« on: December 28, 2019, 09:55:10 AM »
All my dies are full length resizing dies because I load for multiple rifles in the same caliber and from time to time I buy once fired brass.

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Around the Campfire (General Discussion) / Re: Hornady ballistic app
« on: December 25, 2019, 12:28:44 PM »
Nealm66, Merry Christmas  The app sounds pretty interesting and like it has good potential. 

Grouchy I think you misunderstood him, I took it as it was foggy at his home range so they drove over to their friend's range to shoot.

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I'm up in the air about long range shooting. Targets maybe, animals are a little different for me. ...just my opinion. Plus farthest I can practice is 300, if I could shoot farther I would feel better about it

In my opinion you've answered the question about how far you're going to shoot because you're limited to practicing at 300 yards.  Shooting out to 300 yards is pretty simple in that all you have to compensate for is the bullet's drop but once you pass 300 yards there's a lot more to consider.  You have to take into account the bullet's drop, the affect of the wind, thermals, elevation you're at, the angle of the shot, and temperature to name just a few.  I totally agree with you and line of thinking of shooting a target is far different than shooting an animal at long range.  Sadly lots of people see some guy on a hunting show shoot an animal at 700, 800, or even more yards and they get the idea they can do the same thing.  What a lot of people don't realize is those guys have custom rifles and spend more time on the range in a month than most guys do in a year.  Also those shows are edited so no one ever sees how many shots it actually takes to get the perfect shot or how many animals they miss or wound because their shot wasn't good or the lost the animal.  My advice is to keep your shots to 300 yards or less and you'll not only be confident in your shot and abilities but also know where the bullet's going to go rather than guesstimating it's point of impact. 

Bobandbeans you're welcome, I'm glad it helped you out, and good luck with your new rifle. 

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