So... I have put a lot of rounds down range. More than most people will in a lifetime. I agree with the last few posters. I have a .300 wm that I can consistently shoot gatorade bottles at 850 yds. The longest shot I have taken on a mule deer was about 380. If you have the time to dial in shot at that range you have time to stalk closer. A lot more than bullet drop goes into a shot like that on the mountain. (You can't cheat the mountain)