2 piece picatinny rail?

[North to Alaska]

I have tried the talleys on my new Vanguard S2 with the new Leupold vx freedom 4-12×40. I like tge scope but it is too short. The rings push up to the front bell. After a few tries, I realize that I NEED to be able to move a scope forward just a little. I have high cheekbones and my comfortable cheek weld puts me to far foward.

Included pic of the current set-up.
Also B distance in 2nd pic is 5.16 inches.

I really don't want a full rail since I figure it is a bit more of a pita to load.

I am strongly looking at the Burris 2 piece picatinny rail. Found here...
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/965194/burris-2-piece-xtreme-tactical-scope-base-picatinny-style-matte


Matched with these Leaper utg pro 1" rings:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018590022/leapers-utg-pro-precision-optics-interface-poi-picatinny-style-rings-matte

How much adjustment is available on the 2 piece picatinny? (for those that have one)

The leapers I like but theyare 20mm wide which is wider than the talleys and thus limiting my wiggle room.
Any ideas for a SOLID picatinny ring that is a little more narrow?
It's a 7mm Rem Mag, so I would like something capable of holding the scope in place and I don't have to have lapped.

I have contemplated the DNZ one piece. It is about 4.6 in in length and the connecting piece is narrower than a picatinny rail.

Final solution will be a different scope...

[North to Alaska]

Actually, I will probably get the full rail.

Those who have a full rail or even the DNZ, what is your experience with loading the cartridges?

Thanks!

[terminator]

I have a DNZ and it is a small pain.You can get used to it tho.That said I have not bought another one.

[HighDesertHunter]

Actually, I will probably get the full rail.

Those who have a full rail or even the DNZ, what is your experience with loading the cartridges?

Thanks!

I use the Night Force one piece Picatinny rails on my Vanguard S2's with Seekins Precision Picatinny high rings. I have no problems loading the rifles.

[North to Alaska]

Someone else recommended the one piece knightforce picatinny and a leapers rings.

I just wanted to keep it as open as possible.

I have heard some are having issues with Leupold bases/rings? What has been the problem...if there is any?

I left them out of the equation because of that and plus, their website navigation sucks....

But looking at this picture I am attaching. The rear ring and base is further forward and would allow for the scope to be placed farther foward. That should work.

Anyone have issues with leupold mounts?
Edit - I would go with the dual dovetail rather than a windage.

[HighDesertHunter]

Choosing the right scope mounting system can be a daunting task. You didn't say what caliber your new S2 is and this is important. The Leupold STD (standard) single dovetail bases with windage adjustment and rings are rated for calibers with recoil less than 300 Win Mag. The dual dovetails are rated for 300 win mag and up. My experience say's that the difference is in the screw size that they are drilled for and the screws that are included in the package. Packaging seems to indicate that they are for Mark V rifles. That instills enough doubt in my mind that I would not purchase them for a Vanguard.


Mounting a dual or single dovetail system cannot be done correctly without a set of dead centers to align them. I also find that lapping is often necessary in order to get at least 80% ring to scope tube contact. Wheeler Engineering sells a complete kit that will allow you to do all that but if you're not doing several rifles it's hardly worth the cost.


The other drawback is that you do not have the ability to return to zero with these mounts. With the Picatinny style base and rings the scope can be removed while the rifle is in transit and then put back on without affecting zero. When I'm on my quad, side by side or in my jeep, my scopes come off. They go back on in an instant and I'm ready to shoot. I've damaged scopes in transit and it ends the hunt right then and there.


There are a lot of other options out there besides Night Force, Seekins and Leupold and I have several of them in boxes on the shelves of my gun room. The Night Force and Seekins combination works consistently enough for me to not have a problem recommending them.

[North to Alaska]

7mm Rem Mag. It was burried deep in my original post.😜

I have to check prices on the wheeler set. I gave 3 rifles that will have 1" tubes I can use it on. Watched a video on lapping and aligning...I think I may want to do that.

I have since discovered that talley also makes extended rings that may work well.
However i have read that lapping alluminum may not work?... More research.

Edit-just discovered that I need aluminium oxide compound to lap alluminum rings.
And the extended talleys are front only which doesn't do me any good.

[.257]

Get a nightforce rail and rings. No need to lap, and loading your shells is not a problem

[North to Alaska]

Knightforce does not make 1" rings. 😶

[.257]

Oh sorry didn't see you had a 1" scope

[North to Alaska]

Just wanted to update this thread for those stuck with the same problem.
I ended up with the Leupold dovetails. Works very well with the Leupold Freedom 4-12 x 40 scope. Got low rings which gives  the lowest fit possible with my rifle.

I am able to have more room to place the scope in the best position for me.
Really like the scope.

I have not had much chance to shoot it yet....so busy with the kids.

[North to Alaska]

More pics

[DW5]

Rig looks good!

[North to Alaska]

Thank you!