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[Chris338378]

Some may look at these topics as an opportunity to bash while others see them as people venting and bringing attention to having issues with guns they spend their hard earned money on.  I don't know about anyone else but I know when I spend my money I want whatever I buy to be right and have the quality I expect it to have.  I also understand that Weatherby moved and there are some bugs to be worked out and things happen from time to time when you outsource parts but that's where the quality control inspectors come in.  Knowing that they should be checking and double checking everything before it leaves and even more so for the outsourced parts because that company's quality standards can be far different than your company's.  As for only ten gunsmiths moving with the company Adam said all the gunsmiths moved with them and I believe him and have no reason not to.  Hopefully the issues people have been talking about recently and any others that we haven't heard of get resolved sooner than later because each damage the company's reputation and you can rest assured the real Weatherby haters and bashers will spread these topics like wildfire.  As for the owners being mad and venting I can totally understand that and don't blame them a bit, I know I'd be really mad if I spend $1,000 or more on a rifle that wasn't right from the factory.  I'd be livid if I spent a couple thousand dollars and got a rifle with a mag that rattles like a bunch of cans tied to the back of a wedding car going down a bumpy road. 

Danno I respectfully totally and completely disagree with your thought the problem is the guy can't shoot off sandbags, I don't think that's being fair to the guy.  First off sandbags are far more stable than a bipod because they have more of a contact point and secondly the pressure on the stock covers a larger area rather than being centralized at the contact point of the bipod, which normally attach via a sling stud.  Also he could be just using the sandbags under the fore-end and shooting like he does with the bipod.  We don't know if that's the case or not because he hasn't told us if he's using sandbags in just the front or both the front and back. 

[Big Muddy rancher]

According to the Weatherby video on the move 18 of 70 employees made the move. How many of who I don't know.

[Chris338378]

That's interesting because here's Adam's response in the topic It has finally arrived... and he said, "In fact, 100% of my gunsmithing team moved from CA and so they have a ton of Weatherby experience.  For reference purposes I copied and pasted his response and emboldened this sentence so you can see it quickly below. This was located on page 6 if anyone would like to double check it for accuracy. 

Re: It has finally arrived...
« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2020, 07:28:43 PM »
OK guys. Let's calm down a bit.  This is way out of hand.  One guy has one rifle with one magazine issue and now the whole Weatherby company has gone down the drain and everything coming out of Wyoming is a piece of junk?

First off, we will ALWAYS do our best to make things right.  BB340, I appreciate your comments about our distributor down there.  They are good "mates" and I have confidence they will take care of you.  You have my assurance we will make things right.  So sorry you aren't pleased with the end product.  I certainly want you to be satisfied.  You have always been a loyal customer and we will do our best to keep it that way.

As far as the magazine, this has been outsourced for years, back when dad was running the company in CA.  It isn't "new" and doesn't have to do with Wyoming or the current team here.  In fact, 100% of my gunsmithing team moved from CA and so they have a ton of Weatherby experience.  They are putting out some AMAZING guns. So, this has absolutely nothing to do with our move or current leadership.  That magazine was originally designed for the Tacmark which many of you may recall.  We will take this feedback into consideration, as we do all customer feedback.  Additionally, we will make sure the owner is satisfied.

Now, let's all take a chill pill and get back to a more positive Weatherby Nation that we all enjoy.

Adam Weatherby

[BB340]

If there is a problem with quality control let's give Adam a chance to straighten it out. We need to remember, this is a Weatherby site funded by Weatherby. If we keep bashing Weatherby on their site they can easily eliminate the Weatherby Nation site. I don't think we want that, I know I don't. There's a lot to learn from a site like this, on our side and on Weatherby's side. We can vent about a problem here and get their attention about it but bashing Weatherby on their site isn't one of the brightest things to do.

Totally agree GC. I believe with my post about my magazine that I was still as big a fan of Weatherby after I received this rifle as I was before it. I probably did state a few things about QC that wasn't warranted but I do stick by what I said. I wasn't out to Bash Weatherby on purpose and hope it didn't come across that way. Heck I haven't even fired this rifle, or a few others and I am already thinking of ordering another one from the custom shop. And doing so without any trepidation or worry about QC at all. If you look at this site and many other social media sites there has not been any other rifles, that I no of, being reported as faulty. That's just 2 out of how many thousand go out the door every month?
As to this site, yep they could close it down without a worry at all to them. We are only a small part of their audience. We should be free to voice our opinion on here, and believe we are pretty much allowed to. But when we really start attacking the Weatherby name over a couple of minor problems then I think they are well in their right to shut us down.

[Chris338378]

I don't see pointing out shortfalls and dropping the ball in quality control is bashing, they're two totally different things in my opinion.  Maybe I'm far less sensitive than many people are these days but if you're in business you have to expect the good and bad.  How you deal with it is what makes the difference between great businessmen and the mediocre businessmen.  You need to appease all the customers and charm the potential customers which is a delicate balancing act and isn't accomplished by censoring either of them because at the end of the day they provide the money to keep you in business by buying your stuff.  Get them mad and it costs you money in the form of lost sales but if you learn from the criticism, accept the fact criticism is part of being in business, learn not to take each and everything personally, make things right, and respect them you're business will flourish and gain new customers. 

[Nealm66]

Very well said!

[godscountry]

It doesn't really matter if we THINK we're not bashing Weatherby, right now it only matters if Adam thinks we're bashing Weatherby. In the other post Adam stated " This is way out of hand." Reading between the lines it sounds like he believes  we're bashing Weatherby and he's the one in charge of this site.

[Nealm66]

True, I would like to see what improvements are made and how, to the stock to improve accuracy though. Always willing to learn, good or bad. Hope we don’t discourage people from bringing up problems because that’s also where the solutions come from.

[danno50]

It doesn't really matter if we THINK we're not bashing Weatherby, right now it only matters if Adam thinks we're bashing Weatherby. In the other post Adam stated " This is way out of hand." Reading between the lines it sounds like he believes  we're bashing Weatherby and he's the one in charge of this site.

+1 Mike, a lot of the post's sound like out right accusing Weatherby of allowing poor quality control due to lack of skill at the new facility. Believe me, no one puts the kind of money that Weatherby did into making a move across the country to open a plant without knowing they had qualified employees and materials. Including Quality Control. Weatherby has always taken care of all warranty work on firearms when they know its justified. In this case the gunsmiths have stated, "The gunsmiths claim that this looks like an issue with the mold, not with the barrel melting the stock. With that being said, they said it will not affect the performance based on where it is located.” Given that answer, the OP (after reassembly of his rifle) hasn't been able to do anymore testing due to ammo and weather constraints, but the Weatherby QC bashing continues without any further conclusions from the test firing results. Speculating that Weatherby firearms, after the move to Wyoming, are now inferior is unjustified and as has been said, has gotten way out of hand. Whether you think its constructive criticisum or bashing, "Let Weatherby work with the OP", for a final resolution. Enough has been said, we need to let this go.

[Maasjod]

This thread is definitely gotten out of hand and is not what it was intended to be. There has been a lot of opinions and other comments that have fueled frustration on my end and some others apparently. I removed my own personal opinion after re reading it with a clear head. It was out of line. This site is and should be used for topics of discussion and praises not bashing. We should be open to discussion and trouble shooting minor issues. All other major issues should be run through Weatherby. This forum should be an open resource for Weatherby customers. As we have all seen recently these types of threads can and will be removed. At the 5:00 minute mark in the Weatherby “the move” video it stated that “18 out of 70” employees moved with them. So I was a bit off on my statements. It would appear that some of those 18 were all of the gun smiths from CA according to Adam Weatherby. Anyways let’s move on from this and continue to be what this site was intended to be. I have a couple of messages from members on here and I’ll continue to trouble shoot this odd situation. If I can find out how to remove this thread I will. This has gone way to far off the intended path and it will most likely not be able to continue with the intended resolution. If I figure something out I’ll start a new thread so I can update your guys.