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Can Am Outlander ATV

Can Am Outlander ATV
« on: August 13, 2020, 06:32:02 PM »
I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with a 650 or 850 Can Am Outlander ATV, I'm thinking of buying one before I head out to Colorado elk hunting the end of October.
Doug

Re: Can Am Outlander ATV
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2020, 06:53:27 PM »
A lot cheaper than hay burners.

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2020, 07:45:07 PM »
My brother-in-law has a 2-Up 650 and he really likes it - very reliable. I have an Arctic Cat 700, 2-Up machine that I like. I use mine for elk hunting and has hauled out several elk quarters.

You definitely want power steering, a winch is helpful in many instances, and a storage box on the back.
JK

zonie

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2020, 09:23:52 PM »
We've went from horses, to honda trail 90's, tote goats (still have one), jeeps, 4x4 elk mobile trucks (son still has one with 38" tires he also uses for the mud bog races)),  bronco's (my daily driver), Older Toyota sr5 solid axle,   blazers, back to horses, atv's we still  have  honda and polaris quads,  and finally a new honda 1000 side by side 5 seater.   Never had a Can Am probably never have one not that they are bad if it has a belt I get a big red flag (more later).   One thing I've noticed bigger isn't always better those old school little Toyota solid axle 4x4 pick-ups with the inline 4 cylinder eng  are darn near bullet proof and go almost anywhere and get you back,  same with old jeep cj's and inline 6 cylinders, my son still fixing his but has the little v8 in it, I don't get warm and fuzzy about big quads.  350's to 500 cc  4x4 quads are about the  perfect size for hunting,  I didn't say ranching/farming we are talking serious hunting in very rough country, no roads in places, here in our area we can still drive off road to retrieve  game animals.   I don't like belt drive transmissions for a couple reasons when going down hill depending upon how steep the mtn and atv models you are on the brakes all the time,   some of this crap we are in is down right dangerous to drive in like piling rocks to get over downed trees, taking a chain saw to cut our way in old roads with downed trees that drop behind you etc.   Climbing hills is another one when you are up over the handle bars to stop you from going. over backwards , we've had it happen to a good friends wife she got in over her head  literally and thought she could go up this trail and you know what happened.   Atv's I much prefer and electric shift manual tranny i.e. Honda you put it in gear,  and it stays in that gear  going up / down and you can concentrate on driving / balancing / not braking .  I do agree with newer power steering it's nice to have.  There are foot shift manual tranny's which are great also.  Manual tranny's are less problems and that's a good thing.  If you are just out BS's around belts are OK I guess,  I have one.   700 or 800 cc quads for hunting  are big and heavy,   I would get good mud type deep lug tires.  Hell I can go 65 mph  on my Polaris  500 quad you don't need that kind of speed usually we rarely drive over 30 mph even on good graveled roads, mostly we are just creeping along.   Shaft drive with independent suspension,  manual tranny  and full lockable  4 wheel drive when needed or full time 4 wheel drive is the way to go imo.  Not that limited slip 4 wheel drive that engages when the rear wheel slips  then the front engages. I don't need to be on the throttle to make the rears slip so I can get the fronts to engage,  full  all 4 wheels locked when you want it is a good thing in rough stuff.
 We've had our Honda Rancher electric shift for 17 years and it hasn't broke yet.  Now if you want to ricky race my son has a full on race Honda 450 quad that will scare the crap out of you if grab a hand full of throttle.  My son-in-law an engineer for Honda him and other engineers up until a couple years ago would go around the east coast and race the same 450's .   2 people on a quad can be dangerous in rough country for the inexperienced.   This is not a knock on what people buy and use I could really care less,  buy quality and something that will get you there and back year after year with low maintenance and you can trust is a good thing.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2020, 10:29:07 PM by zonie »

Re: Can Am Outlander ATV
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2020, 07:29:13 AM »
A buddy of mine has a 750, he loves it. It's a LOT bigger that his old Honda and took him a while to get used to it.
I love the smell of deer guts in the morning, it smells like...VICTORY!

zonie

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2020, 10:00:52 AM »
A few items that I always take  in all of our utv/atv , and we've had to use them more than I want to.   tire plugs,  fix a flat,  starting fluid  & matches isn't a bad thing to carry especially if you roll a tire off a rim, extra tire plugs for those big holes,  couple of extra tubes of plug glue, small air compressor, cheap at harbor freight, emergency co2 kit for filling  flat tires, a few extra basic tools, mule tape min 25 to 100 ft for towing other quads and tying things down,   utv's get a spare tire & rim & mount it on the utv,  and small scissor jack with appropriate socket & wrench for lug nuts, flashlight, rain gear,  and whatever else you may need for your situation, get yourself some front and rear quad boss bags or similar  or  storage boxes, get front and rear racks,  I keep trailer ball hitches on all of ours for towing small trailers and  other quads., and I've had to be towed also damn Polaris. 
« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 10:04:19 AM by zonie »

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2020, 10:45:33 AM »
My Arctic Cat 700 2-Up was the first and only ATV I’ve ever owned. I almost always have mine in single rider mode. I like it because it has a longer wheelbase (more useful for the things I do).

It is bigger/heavier than many of the others mentioned. I suppose like anything else, you have to be careful and have a lot of respect for the machine. I’ve never wrecked it or damaged it; it has served me well.

I can basically pack anything along on my ATV and it pack out a bull elk on the rear rack (quartered).

I have a standard bed on my truck, so I have to have the tailgate down to haul it, but I haven’t had any issues with that aspect.

They’re all pretty good and from what I know, the Can-Am is a high quality machine.
JK

Re: Can Am Outlander ATV
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2020, 10:56:52 AM »
Where does an atv come in beneficial over a 4x4 pickup? 

certain atv trails??

seemed like so many places Ive hunted out west were "no atv" etc...

thanks.


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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2020, 11:05:55 AM »
Leaning towards getting a Can Am Outlander 850 North ATV with a windshield, heated handgrips and lower gearing. Just need to make sure I don't over extend before buying my new townhouse next month. The area I hunt in Colorado has ATV  trails and if you harvest an elk you can drive directly to it to retrieve the meat. Most of these trails are impassable to normal pickups.
Doug

Re: Can Am Outlander ATV
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2020, 02:08:21 PM »
Ha! Ha! I have a 2006 GMC Sierra truck...it’s fine, but certainly not a “nice” truck and I wouldn’t take it on anything but the main forest roads here!

Trust me, the very last thing on the “To Do” list for the U.S. Forest Service is road maintenance.

I can’t speak for every state, but you can go A LOT deeper and further into areas with an ATV in Wyoming. It isn’t even close...
JK

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Re: Can Am Outlander ATV
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2020, 02:54:22 PM »
My experience is limited to flat and marshy land. They both used John Deere Gattors . Both were diesel powered.

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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2020, 03:00:27 PM »
Around here...they don’t call them the Rocky Mountains for nothing! Most of the dirt roads will knock every suspension bushing you have out of your truck.

That’s why just about everyone owns an ATV or UTV here (I have both). You get beat to death in your truck...
JK

zonie

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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2020, 09:56:54 PM »
The forest service has 50 " width limitations on their trails systems made to limit the size of vehicles,  you will find out real quick at the trail gates whether it fits or not,  trail systems are not all the same some only 2 wheeled vehicles i.e. motorcycles with ramps that go up and over the fence,  and some trails limited to  horse, hiking  with a V- shaped entrance to block quads, 
 sometimes bicycles, what ever the signs allow.   Atv's and Utv's for the most part are far smoother riding than your typical jeep or pick-up.  My old jeep CJ had the old 9 and 10 leaf suspension and just jarred you to death on even slight washboard roads, and it would get you sideways on the road if going too fast.   Atv's and Utv side by sides just fly over these types of roads.  jeeps cj & wrangler types historically are getting bigger, longer, wider and smoother.  My Honda Pioneer 1000-5 is about as big as the old flat fender military jeeps.  We are fortunate in AZ we can street legal Atv's and Utv's all of ours are registered and insured as street legal with off road stickers. We have taken ours out of state to New Mexico and Wyoming and in Wyoming had to buy a special off road sticker for us non-residents.  Arizona is now starting to do the same requiring people from out of state who bring their toy's have to buy an off road sticker for public lands,   the stickers are not expensive just another thing to make money one State does it and others follow.  Really you can just go more places faster with Atv's.   They are getting quieter, better suspensions, higher ground clearance, tighter turning, pretty decent gas milage considering you might be on it for a good part of the day out scouting, and  they're fun to drive.  On the flip side  the nice thing about a small pickup or jeep wrangler they got good heaters, A/C, doors and windows you don't have to buy extra.  Some  of our more hard core hunting friends not only have Atv's or side by side's and big trucks of course,  they are going back to the older Toyota  4 door forerunners and just bombing thru the rough stuff , another vehicle popular around my area is the  smaller jeep cherokee xj 80's to 2000 or so with the inline 6, then guy's  lift and re-spring them and go a lot of places,   they ain't buying them to look good but rather for hunting and not worrying if it gets scratched, tearing the mirrors off or a few dents.  If I found a decent running older Toyota 4 door forerunner  for a good price I'd think about  buying it. 
« Last Edit: August 15, 2020, 03:05:16 AM by zonie »

Re: Can Am Outlander ATV
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2020, 08:10:58 AM »
Zonie - I have a Honda Pioneer 1000-5 LE as well. I have a wife and 3 kids, so my wife made it a requirement that I had to get one that could fit all of us.

If it is any consolation, even residents have to buy that Wyoming ORV sticker every year.

It is interesting - I have heard that some areas are enforcing that width limit you spoke of. I know parts of northern Wyoming are, like around Jackson and Cody.

So far...(a little secret)...they aren’t strongly enforcing that rule in southern Wyoming, in particular in the Medicine Bow National Forest.

I work at a place where just about every other person owns a Polaris Razor Turbo 4 seater! Not much of a hunting UTV and they are probably bigger than the older Jeeps!!!
JK

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2020, 09:49:15 AM »
Around here...they don’t call them the Rocky Mountains for nothing! Most of the dirt roads will knock every suspension bushing you have out of your truck.

That’s why just about everyone owns an ATV or UTV here (I have both). You get beat to death in your truck...
I have hunted in Wyoming, but it was in the Bridger Wilderness area. No wheeled vehicles allowed!  :)