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Blacktail

phil

Blacktail
« on: September 10, 2007, 04:50:56 PM »
Technically, blacktail are just a small breed of mule deer. So I have a question about hunting these buggers.
How do you do it? I don't have the benefit of a dad who taught me how to hunt, so I am really going it alone and just trying to figure things out by trial and error at this point. Any tips or ideas? I've got about 3 weeks left on the season here and I'd really like to fill my tag, even if its just a little fork...

bruddell

Re: Blacktail
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2007, 06:12:05 PM »
I could write a book on this, but will give you a short version if that's possible. I'd say hunting them is like hunting a White tail - Mule deer cross. Their behavoir is a bit of both but also the country will dictate how you hunt them. You can glass them, sit on a stand with other hunters conducting a drive towards you, But I've had the best luck when I've "pushed" these deer down and across canyons basically just walking really slow, stopping a lot and just watching. Stop twice as long as you walk and don't walk very far at a time. Usually you'll catch them stairing at you, frozen perfectly still in the brush or trying to sneak out over the next ridge or doubling back up the draw you're in. Start in whatever low country you have (cold air sinks in the morning) and steadily climb up and across the mountain. Then during mid day the air is warming drop down about a 1/4 or 1/3 or the way and slowly hunt across the tops of the draws, (the wind or breeze should be drifting up and away from the direction you're hunting). During the middle of the day bucks will bed just below the tops of ridges not neccesarily the main ridge either but the little side ridges that sprout off the main one. This position gives them the ability to smell updrafts from the back side of the ridge and see down the ridge below them. Reverse this in the evening as the air cools and starts to sink again, hunting up and out and back to the truck. This is going to sound odd, but don't forget to look behind you periodically. Unless you are hunting pretty open country, which means you can forget the above advice and just spend lots of time glassing, they will sit tight in the brush and let you walk right past them then sneak away behind you. I've killed lots of bucks that way and on at least one occasion, almost stepped on a bedded buck before he jumped. I'm guessing you are hunting the A zone based on the amount of hunting days you mentioned were left. The best hunting is just around the corner, the last week or two so don't give up. AND, I've killed as many bucks in the middle of the day while everybody else was napping, eating lunch, lying to each other etc. Hunting in the middle of the day is a lot easier to do when it's cooler later in the season. So pack a sandwich and spend the day moving slowly and glassing. You won't get tired, you'll get away from the roads AND other hunters. The deer WILL be up and moving, you just want to be in a good position to see them. Speaking of which, it's absolutely critical to have good binocs (the best you can afford, then squeeze the grocery bill some more, you won't regret it), and used to using them. Also, I never hunt without a spotting scope. Saves lots of walking. Everytime I've left it at home I've regretted it. This is what's worked for me, there are likely lots of other ways to hunt these deer. Hopefully, other's on this site will share their advice and experiences with you. But like I said above, don't get discouraged. Get out and hunt. The worst that can happen is you get some excersize, see some beautiful country, and get some time to yourself. Oh, and don't forget to POST THE PICTURE OF YOU AND YOUR BUCK!
all the best,
Brad

phil

Re: Blacktail
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 05:41:35 PM »
Brad,

Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a go this weekend and hopefully by Monday I'll have a great picture for you all.

xd.40

Re: Blacktail
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2008, 01:25:44 PM »
First off, Know the area you want to hunt. Pack your backpack or hydration pack with food and safety gear. Then get up EARLY, Blacktail bucks move early in the morning, and later in the evening. Start down low, probably as low as you can get. Maybe on farm land or close to it. Then while still DARK, hike up the trail or area that you need to be, and take a flashlight so you can see the trail if needed, but do NOT use it to find the glow of the eyes in the dark.... Blacktail bucks will probably be up all night feeding.
Like Brad said, take your sandmich and eat on the trail. Glassing and scoping a lot as you hike. Blacktail are nothing like whitetail to hunt. They are more challenging. And Yes, you can and WILL probably walk right past a good buck, while you watch the does run away.
Then in the evening time, stay down in the lower area. They will be back down. They will use different trails each day. Maybe come down one trail today, while tomorow, they will come down the trail behind you. ALWAYS Look behind you. I've taken a few blaicktail bucks that I had just walked passed, then turned to look behind me, and WOW, theres one. They will be still as can be, and after you walk passed them or near them, they will then get up and walk away as you just passed them.
Good Luck next season, since this one has come and gone. By the way, did you get one this year?

chap_dog48

Re: Blacktail
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 07:09:14 PM »
Most of what the other members have posted is right on.  I will just say that scouting an area is a must.  I shot many blacktails 300-500 yards from old lagging road.  Just have to know the area you want to hunt.  This is no different than any deer species.  Good Luck.  Kurt

Oregon Jim

Re: Blacktail
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2008, 10:16:45 AM »
I hunt blacktail in the coastal mountains of Oregon, and deer behavior is just plain different here than in most places because deer have everything they need nearby. The vegetation is thick everywhere, so food and cover are always within a very short distance, and because the area is (was) rain forest, water is abundant. There are no long walks to cover, food, or water, and a deer may NEVER venture more than a mile or so from where it was born. They hide as if they could become invisable and they do not often move out into large open areas, and they are terribly smart and hard to stalk.

I depend upon good optics and sniping skills much more than "hunting skills" like tracking or stalking as those darned deer are just so good at what they do!
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