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Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers

Re: Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2025, 07:43:35 AM »
Primers can and will go off if seated upside down.  I've seen the go off on Dillons and Ammoloads. www.ammoload.com   things to watch in primer filling in general whether it's a hand primer or automatic primer filling machines we had the old large Scharch primer filler machines these pre-date the Dillon primer fillers.  the automated machines will swage the primer pockets with a die and then seat a new primer even if it were  little tight these geared machines will flatten a  primer even if you were seating with a good press you can flatten a primer.  every now and then if you are going fast with the loader things get to rattling and it will flip a primer kind of looks like it was mushed not the rounded edges as normal.  the other possibility is the primer was loaded in the primer  tube or tray upside down  been there done that,  the old CCI primers the ones with the hard cup metal had problems seating in Dillons back when since that time CCI has corrected the issue. The Ammoloads had scatter shields on them at least ours did.  Remember large rifle primers are .008  taller than large pistol primers.
Thanks for the info.
I've been reloading since I was 12 and have seen just about every type of primer seating problem, upside down, sideways and have punched them back out after I put a drop of gun oil on them so they wouldn't go off.
I've been using Dillon machines since the 90's and started with a Square Deal B before getting a used converted 450/550 and still have both including the 550B. I have 4 shot shell presses and 2 rifle presses. So I know the difference between a rifle primer and a pistol primer height.
But when a company miss packages a large rifle primer in a large pistol primer package it is hard to distinguish between them.
Again thanks for the information.
TD

Re: Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2025, 09:59:04 PM »
things just happen sometimes,  I can't ever remember having a bad lot of primers,  sometimes there are very slight differences in diameter and I can feel them when seating and switching primers.

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Re: Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2025, 05:25:41 AM »
Any response from them yet,T D?  I would bet their lawyer told them to say nothing.

Re: Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2025, 08:08:23 AM »
Any response from them yet,T D?  I would bet their lawyer told them to say nothing.
I sent them another message claiming a possible miss packaging ,rifle primers in pistol primer sleeves and they asked for info so I took pictures of their primer in a dial mike, a federal pistol primer and a CCI BR-2 large rifle primer. I was told they would check their spec sheet and should hear from them today with more song and dance story.
They're like dealing with an insurance adjuster.
TD

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Re: Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2025, 08:42:59 AM »
Sounds like more "sheet" on the way to me.   ;D

Re: Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2025, 02:05:12 PM »
Final response from them is I'm lucky to have only experienced one primer discharge while reloading all those years.
The bottom line I will buy none of their products again.
TD

Re: Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2025, 04:32:12 PM »
That's total bs td. I won't be buying anything from them either. The only time I have had a primer go of without firing a cartridge is using a hammer style bullet puller and that has happened twice in forty plus years of reloading. I will never use a hammer style bullet puller again.
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