Non-magnum but an early short magnum-ish

[eford]

I don’t know of a non-custom rifle maker in North American regularly producing a 284 Winchester in their lineup. As one that had a poor first opening with Winchester 50+ years ago due to making it for  non-bolt action rifles, it didn’t catch on very well. It sorta stunk but the cartridge has merits anyway.

I would love to see a 284 Win in a standard Vanguard or a light weight version of it brought back by Weatherby, especially with a 20” and 24” barrel.

The closest to a 284 Win with current Vanguards is the 270 Win and 7mm-08 Rem——-unless a 7mm RPM is in development. Thoughts???

[zoniezonie]

284 win good cartridge,  it's just like fishing tackle it's made to catch fishermen.  just like cartridges are made to catch shooters.  Sometimes I think new and improved is not a bad idea and while I do like innovations we are stagnating with hold overs with a hundred plus year technologies.

[Big Muddy rancher]

My brother in lam has a Browning BAR in 284 and his son a Browning BLR in 284.

Hard to find factory ammo these days

[txaggie]

Prob a little off topic, seems like winchester tested the waters only to get burned overall.

264 - 284 - the WSSM's never seem to ever leave the runway, now the wsm's were popular and have a strong following.

The new 6.8 western seems to be a flash in the pan. and all were legitimate cartridge's it's interesting if you studied the history/era of consumer demand what was wildly popular and why.

Now the lure seems to be if I can make you a long range sniper - you will trick out on average 4-6000 rifle?

And Weatherby had to make the vanguard for an every man rifle because mark v's were to expensive! LOL Sorry if i derailed the topic, I find the discussion very interesting as to what drives the flock of sheep to your trough;

[eford]

Factory ammunition support to a new (or an old) cartridge cannot be overlooked. Hornady’s support for the Creedmoor and PRC cartridges is a perfect example. Since Weatherby is making their own ammo for their new RPMs and their “old” named cartridges there is constant factory backing as well. I know there are other ammo makers offering Weatherby cartridge ammo but it isn’t widespread.

By the way, I don’t remember seeing 284 Win ammo on the shelf. Luckily there are hordes of bullet choices in .284 cal and that is probably why the 284 Win could hang on without current rifle or ammo production.

Topic detour: About 10 years ago I was considering a 35 Whelen and a 9.3x62mm Mauser. The bullet weight choices for the Whelen were less than for the Mauser. I went with the Mauser and think I made the right pick. I never considered factory ammo, only the weight choices.

[Dino82520]

Being rather fond of Savage 99's I wanted one in .284 Win. When I had the money I couldn't find one. When I didn't they were all over. The last one I saw at a gun show was priced at $3,000. I don't think my 99 collection is going to expand past its number.

[zoniezonie]

In the case of trying to find ammo,  I wouldn't worry about that too much you can always find ammo or brass somewhere in this country,  might be a little expensive but as long as you have it and take care of it should be serviceable for years,  we have a little pre-64  model 94 in 25-35 old Indian gun I should look for some brass , I think we have some ammo around somewhere or just make it out of other brass.  my point is if you got a gun in whatever old or oddball caliber and you like it find some reloading supplies or ammo for it and go have fun with it.  Personally I appreciate our old guns far more than the new stuff we have, it has a history to it. 

[Dino82520]

I was able to get some brass for my .303 Savage from Huntington.com. Made by Norma. A little expensive but it keeps that old 99 year old 99 shooting.

[txaggie]

Oh I totally agree that the gun/ammo support and options go hand in hand. In the event of an ammo shortage on the shelves winchester is some of the last you'll find available. LIke the new western, feel like it would be a cool one to try, but look at the available options for bullets? None with an ounce of cool factor, I do not get what they aren't getting? There's bullets that continuously outsell others, why are they so hard headed?