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Backcountry 2.0

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Backcountry 2.0
« on: November 02, 2024, 04:56:46 PM »
I purchased a Weatherby Backcountry 2.0 in 308 win ( standard model) a couple of years ago ... First off I love the weight , it really is a lighweight rifle , mine comes in at a hair under 6 pounds with a mounted scope. Trigger is good and really easy to adjust . I like mine at 2 to 2.5 lbs and was able to set it very easy. No creep as well. Stock feels good and is easy to move thru the steep timber that I like to hunt. However.. Accuracy isn't particularly great, getting about 1.5'+ groups at 100 yards using premium factory ammo. Good enough for hunting but I can get better with my old $500 Rem Mtn rifle, which also has a great trigger although harder to adjust . This year deer hunting the bolt seemed really sticky , although it got better back home after oiling. Dont know if its a Weahtherby thing - but there has always been a catch as I lift the bolt, like its topped out , but thats only about 70% of the throw- have to power thru that to get to completley free the bolt. Not a problem when adrenaline is high shooting at a deer but annoying most of the time. Also noticed this year that some of the Cerkote finish is coming off where it rubs on the action, maybe this is a normal thing with Cerekote rifles- first one I've had. All in all I enjoy the rifle but I was expecting better from a rifle costing over $2500 .
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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2024, 07:46:34 PM »
curious if you tried various weights to see if it it like a different flavor?

I've gotten some over the years that needed some breaking in, never one of my BC rifles I have about 7-8 or so? Hopefully that gets better with time and so does accuracy.

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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2024, 07:54:45 PM »
Weatherby may want you to send it back so they can check it out.
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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2024, 09:39:56 AM »
No .. haven't tried different bullet weights,trying to keep that in a tight range. Haven't tried alot of brands either , but I will soon.
First Weatherby,  first Cerakote rifle. Is it normal for the Cerakote to rub off around the action after just 50 - 60 rounds? Also, what's normal for the bolt throw? Is there usually a catch on the Weatherby's due to their lug style? Will it just wear in?
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« Last Edit: November 03, 2024, 10:04:02 AM by TG »

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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2024, 10:21:59 AM »
  Are you asking members of our forum now because you’ve already talked to Weatherby Customer Service and they didn’t help with any solutions?
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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2024, 10:48:50 AM »
WEATHERBY said they'd take it back to check the accuracy issue. Hadn't checked with them about the rest ,  mostly wanted to know if some of the other stuff is just " normal"?
Dont really like the idea of shipping my rifle - never know whats going to happen in transit. And I've had bad experiences with sending in other products ( never done so with Weatherby), typically they all deny any responsiblity , so I'm a bit "gun shy" to send it in for that reason also.

Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2024, 01:26:55 PM »
That's one thing about weatherby they always take care of their customers.
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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2024, 02:17:19 PM »
I understand about shipping rifles. If you don't ship it,you choose to live with it or pay a bunch.  :)

Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2024, 05:27:11 PM »
Just curious did you mount the scope base or someone else ?  not saying this is the issue some times base screws can be a little long and interfere with the bolt,  how does the bolt cycle with no ammo in it ?  first and foremost ANY  gun new or used do a tune up on it first to make sure every thing is as it should be and you familiarize yourself with it's function.  When I mean tune-up ,  clean and oil it, check the screws,  cycle it,  grease places that need to be greased, CHECK THE BEDDING of the STOCK and make sure it's right.  you can watch several you tubes if unsure.  I don't care for pressure point in stocks fore ends,  but some rifles a little pressure settles the barrel down and shoots better.  just because you have some new super Gucci rifle whatever the brand don't mean it's tuned up properly unless it's a full on custom,  if it does have fore end  pressure built into the stock it's harder to get a feel if the rifles action is rocking between the action screws whereas a free floated barrel it's easy to tell if the action rocks when the screws are being tightened and loosened.  I have had rifles that had metal chips or a little burr left in there from machining and it broke that tiny piece off when cycling the bolt,  point is if it happens it ain't right and stop what you are doing to not create any more damage than what's already done.  about 2 years ago a very good buddy said he was have problems closing and opening his bolt a very good old school bolt rifle (not a Weatherby) I  loosened the action screws and guess what the bolt cycled just fine that told me one thing the stock bedding was bad we had to correct and build up the recoil lug mortice so it wouldn't bind the action,  we noticed this later it put barely noticeable hairline cracks in both bolt lugs from repeated mis use,  basically it ruined the rifle,   you can not believe how much pressure can be put on a couple screws bending the action to where it wouldn't work.  two other friends 2 different times great guy's but they don't know squat about a gun,  both times elk hunting  one of them went down to Wal Mart and bought a package rifle scope combo 30-06  we are walking out in the sticks and he see's this cow elk first so he racks a round in the chamber and absolutely locks the gun up ammo won't go in and won't come out,  I pull my rifle up waiting on him to shoot and him fiddling around I couldn't wait on him anymore so I shot it ,  his said the action screws were so loose he tighten them down hard just before the hunt (BAD BEDDING) ,  another time another good  friend I  heard him shooting about  a qtr mile away I bet he shot 10 to 12 rounds ,  I couldn't stand it anymore I got back in the truck and drove over to where he was and he said i don't know what's wrong he said he was missing every shot and he never hit the elk at 100 yds or less.  7mm Rem mag another well known rifle / scope combo.  got back to camp put a paper plate on a log 25 yds out and I couldn't hit the plate,  OK just use my wifes rifle she already got her  elk  we go down the 2 tract and there a small herd of elk,  he get's  out and all I see is my nickel plated brass flying on the ground the guns is not going off he is so excited he's not pulling the trigger, so I'm picking up loaded rounds trying to catch him,  he runs out of ammo and that's including the extra ammo in the butt stock shell holder,  I catch up with him give him the loaded ammo I picked and told him pull the trigger.  you had to be there is was funny as hell,  anyway he had the same rifle my other friend had trouble with just a different caliber  (STOCK BEDDING ) was totally off and action screws were not even tight,   I don't know if he ever had the rifle fixed he lives in a different state.  Another time about 4 years ago I guess,  my son and I were out bull hunting in a big bull area a guide and his client pull up while we were having a lunch break on the side by side anyway this guy has the same frekin rifle brand as my 2 friends years before,   he just bought it two different kinds of factory ammo the guy says the rifle malfunctioned and couldn't get a shot on this bull,  anyway you mind if I look at it,  man it's  not hitting the primer right, I kept looking at the case and sure enough the shoulder on the cases were set back and upon dropping the hammer it slide the ammo fore ward and left a slight indentation on the primer but not enough to set it off,   the other box of ammo looked ok but he wasn't using that box of ammo,   moral to the story if you are going to hunt go shoot your rifle ,  get as good as you can with it,   take a spare rifle and extra ammo.  hell I take at least 40 rounds with me  for each rifle just in case.  we have fell and broke scopes had to go buy new scope in the closest town had to re-sight,  I got one very good hunter friend climbs like a goat he slipped and fell  rock gave way he stepped on his pump shotgun stock broke it in half
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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2024, 06:12:37 PM »
Basically Murphy's Law strikes again and again. Don't forget Murphy was am optimist.

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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2024, 07:17:13 PM »
TG - while I do not have a TI i have a couple original BC rifles which are coated coyote tan which they don't offer anymore to my knowledge and a couple of custom jobs as well as some limited run ones i found a liking too! LOL i have a few,

So while i've never had an issue I thought was factory related - I did have a case where "I" (all my doing) lots a cleaning end of a rod in the barrel after many many attempts to dislodge I finally waived the white flag and called wby. Yes I got the ship us your rifle and let us diagnose it and we will send you service request etc. The lead time was as expected  (very long) so i had my rifle shipped back to the factory as I assumed the worst a re-barrel job would be the fix and I wanted it coated just like it was - again this was a custom shop order kuiu stock 257 LH to boot. Weatherby kept their promise and kept me informed when I would impatiently ask questions. The diagnosis was as expected I gave them my CC information and said fix it and ship it back. They did so in a timely fashion it was the wait for diagnosis that took forever which they fully disclosed.

The gun was returned and I ate a whole lot of crow as a 50 year old who made rookie mistake on a very high dollar rifle!

I would go through the normal routine as far as accuracy to rule out the simple stuff, another thing one might add i'm assuming it's a 6 lug and we did in fact use non-magnum base/rings for this as they are different from wby magnums? If needbe have it done by a gunsmith, we can all overlook or like in my case make a mistakes that will cause much frustration. Worst case in the off season send back to weatherby (hope that isn't nescessary) and get it back in time for 2025 season.

Best of luck keep us informed - I would rate weatherby CS as top shelf. Just my experiences and I own allot of them. I also would make a note not to get this LW hunting rifle hot and keep going. Yes it's a 308 and can take more rounds than a magnum, but a LW hunting rifle contour isn't intended to just go through a box in a short time frame. I've seen cases where guns were stored and had factory oil/grease build up, i've always taken new and given them a good clean start from scratch. I'm rambling at this point, hope you find a liking for this rifle all of mine are very good shooters in a LW package some of the few fiberglass stocked rifles I fool with as I prefer the wood stocked stuff;

Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2024, 07:43:18 AM »
Can't help you with much but I know the gun shop I use doesn't let you cycle the bolts of cerkote coated rifles as it shows wear just from that
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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2024, 10:28:21 AM »
 I pretty anal when it comes to accuracy,  factory ammo today is probably as good as it can be and many different bullet styles.  I hate to harp on BEDDING,  Wooden rifle stocks of years ago on average were  better (more stable) than most Wood used on rifles today IMO,  the old Wood were older, the right grain structure, very well aged and dry,  you can buy stock blanks today that are pretty stable but you are going to pay for them also.  Wood moves and you move from a high humidity climate to a very dry climate it just gets worst.  Now we have composite stocks and we have the same problem cheaper plastics vs handlaid fiberglass / carbon fibers etc.  at least one that I'm aware of has a stiff injection molded stock that's suppose to be pretty good and they are still 500 bucks,  I suppose there are a few other cheaper factory plastics that are addressing this problem,   as good as these better newer stocks are the action still should be glass bedded to make them what they should be a mirror image of the action.    I want a rifle stock to have  NO outside influence on the rifles barrel action.  I don't care how good factory ammo is it can't compete with highly tuned / tested handloads, specifically built for your rifle.  now re-loading is not for everyone what someone calls good enough it's good enough for them as it should be.  I really don't care for cheaper plastic stocks where they have varying pounds of pressure on pressure points when the outside temps rise and fall
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Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2024, 02:59:41 PM »
A $ 2500 rifle should be perfect right from the factory regardless of anything else! I have 2  factory new rifles that cost less than $400 each that do exactly right.

Re: Backcountry 2.0
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2024, 04:32:05 PM »
Grouchy I absolutely agree !!  and you are also right some lesser expensive guns some  work fine,  but even expensive  guns slip by with defects,   really when was the last time you seen in any product,  guns, car parts,  clothing, it doesn't matter,   INSPECTED BY / PASSED by # such and such. No doubt there are companies that still  check / inspect  and they have their own way of tracking,  across the spectrum how many do ?  I know a guy recently bought an off brand Lever action in 44 mag ,   it wouldn't feed any 44 mag ammo from about the 3 rd round onwards,  an 800 dollar  + rifle made overseas,    it's pure junk and no where  near the quality we have come to expect from older guns  made by Winchester and Marlin lever guns. 
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