Spike Camp

.257wby vs. 7mm rem

Chip

  • *****
  • 1843
    • View Profile
Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2011, 05:14:13 PM »
Ok I can't take it anymore, WHAT? lol   Unless the rules of physics just stopped working completely the 257 is not as much gun as a 7 Mag or a 270 Mag.  Wish it to be all you want to. Still don't make it so.  It's at the upper limits on elk.  Elephants were killed with 7x57mm too but that doesn't make them an elephant rifle in the regular joe hands of the world.  By that logic my 7-08 is a gaint killer.
Yikes!  Come on already.     

BigBoreDan

Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2011, 05:42:51 PM »
Ok I can't take it anymore, WHAT? lol   Unless the rules of physics just stopped working completely the 257 is not as much gun as a 7 Mag or a 270 Mag.  Wish it to be all you want to. Still don't make it so.  It's at the upper limits on elk.  Elephants were killed with 7x57mm too but that doesn't make them an elephant rifle in the regular joe hands of the world.  By that logic my 7-08 is a gaint killer.
Yikes!  Come on already.     

Chip I am not saying it is as much gun...the .257 is clearly on the lesser end and the 7mm on the upper end "power wise" physics haven't changed. 

What I am saying is that anything one could or would feel comfortable shooting with a .270 or 7mm can be taken with a .257 using premium bullets.  None of the three are in the class of a fast .30 or .338 as far as "stopping power"

No the .257 isn't the optimim Cape Buffalo rifle, but neither have deer and elk evolved to the point where a 155mm cannon is required to put one on the ground.  I will state it again the .257/.270/7mm Weatherby are all fine calibers, but I place them ALL in the same class as far as killing game is concerned.  They all are capable deer, elk, hog, black bear, and plains game type of calibers...anything larger and or more dangerous and a larger caliber and bullet is adviseable.

I am a fan of the .257...a BIG fan, but I also love the .300 and .340 and plan on one of the Big Three at some point, but the .257 with the right bullet will flat get it done on most of game that most of us hunt and do so without punishing the shooter. I think there is a REASON that is was Roy's favorite and I think that it is often overlooked.


257 Shooter

  • *****
  • 793
  • 257 Shooter
    • View Profile
Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2011, 07:27:08 PM »
As much as I love the 257, the 7mm is a better choice for heavier game. Heavier calibers generally work better as the game increases in size. That's why they exist.
Remember, bullet diameter and mass are a constant.Velocity is a variable.

Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2011, 09:26:47 PM »
Eman:Seeing you already have a 7mm Wby I think the  choice would be the 257 Wby instead of another 7 mm although it is in the 7Rem.
Roger
Faster horses,younger women,older whiskey,and more money.

Chip

  • *****
  • 1843
    • View Profile
Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2011, 11:06:48 PM »
I agree that deer are not bullet proof every year the old 30-30 still put a few in the freezer around these parts. I understand what your saying I just think your pushing your luck with big elk and tiny bullets.  Not that you'll ever have an issue with it you may not.  But if you do it will be a major issue and not a very enjoyable day in the field.  The 257 is a very interesting round.  For me though it would sure not be my choice for elk nor would I advise anyone to go with one for elk.  Just not enough bullet mass there for me sorry.  I'm not a convert.  Use enough gun to have some margin for error and you'll have a better chance when things don't go quite like you plan.  I think for deer and large pigs I would take a 7 Rem mag over a 257 anyday.  Matter of fact I'd take a 270 win over one too.   But a lot of guys love em and so that's what keeps it interesting in here a lot of different opinions on things.     

300srgr8

Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2011, 11:09:11 PM »
Get the 257 Weatherby and the 7mm Remington Mag. Leave the 270  Win at the store. It won't do anything better than the other two, but I have never been a fan of the 270.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2011, 11:11:24 PM by 300srgr8 »

Chip

  • *****
  • 1843
    • View Profile
Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2011, 11:37:20 PM »
Well unless I'm shooting coyotes in the next zip code I'd take a 270 over a 257 anytime.  But I will say that a 257 makes a damn fine coyote gun as long as they aren't too big and the wind isn't blowing too hard lol.   ;D   

zonie

Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2011, 12:18:50 AM »
Eman:   I'm a little lost on  this question you posted a couple others about buying an S2 in 300 wby and another about is a 300 wby too much gun for antelope.  I was looking at your gun rack and didn't see a 300 but your 7mm wby, 30-06,  243 , 22-250,  got  the bases covered for anything in the lower 48 and then some.

300srgr8

Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2011, 10:17:24 AM »
Eman:   I'm a little lost on  this question you posted a couple others about buying an S2 in 300 wby and another about is a 300 wby too much gun for antelope.  I was looking at your gun rack and didn't see a 300 but your 7mm wby, 30-06,  243 , 22-250,  got  the bases covered for anything in the lower 48 and then some.
It sure looks like he has the bases covered already. Maybe he is now buying guns for the same reason I do. Just for the hell of it. I have had a 30-06 for most of my life, so theoretically, I would not need anything else. Unless I was going to hunt big bears or dangerous game. That is the fun of buying a new gun, at least for me.

eman98

Re: .257wby vs. 7mm rem
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2011, 01:25:31 PM »
I have enough guns already but I think life is to short to go around thinking that you have every thing you need and put off every thing that would make you happy  >:(

And buy always being a dreamer it gets me to work harder in school such as getting strait A's for the past three years and being at least two grades ahead in math and science as I am in eighth grade and have one of the highest GPA's in the school so eventually I can land a job that will support my family and still have the money to buy the Mark5 I can think of ;D