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Accumark vs Vangaurd 2

Drathaar

Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« on: May 14, 2015, 04:01:44 PM »
Is it worth paying the extra cost for a Accumark compared to a Vanguard 2?

fuonlynu

Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2015, 05:20:17 PM »
Two entirely different creatures. Night and day. If you have the cash get the Accumark or a Fibermark.

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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2015, 05:27:34 PM »
thats a trick question, we dont know how you hunt and what your shots are limited to.  overall the accumark is a way better rifle but in a few situations i would rather carry the much lighter and shorter barreled vanguard in a lighter loaded standard caliber.  a better comparison would probably be a basic synthetic MKV or a fibermark which i would still rather have the MKV in most situations.  the Mark V action just seems perfect to me and i have always felt in weatherby calibers you need to be using a 26" barrel to maximize the potential of the rifle. the only downside to the Marks is the weight, the ULW solves this and may be the best overall quality factory hunting rifle on the market but its not designed to shot all day at the range.

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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2015, 06:11:05 PM »
For "ME" the answer is no for (my) reasons:

On my side of the border the Accumark is 3X the cost of the Vanguard II - and since I don't start my fireplace with 20 dollar bills cost matters - or more specifically, "value" matters.

My VGII scoped up the way I want comes in at a couple oz under 9 lbs, already "not light" by any description, but I don't "hump for miles" on foot for most of my hunting (save Moose) so "tolerable". However, the Accumark rigged out the same way, with it's #3 contour barrel etc would come in 1lb 4oz "heavier" - 10 1/4 lbs is more than I want to carry even just in to the stand.

I "hunt" my rifles and both of my Vanguard II's (one synthetic, one wood stocked) shoot sub-moa (1/2" and 5/8" respectively with "off the shelf" ammo - and cheap stuff to boot), so tripling the price would "not" give me any accuracy advantage - at least none that would benefit me even if it did improve.

And while the Accumark has the aluminum bedding, heavier barrel, better quality stock, tougher action etc etc etc the VGII's will "easily" outlive me even if I'm a little hard on them (I just retired a 50 year old Rem 740 that is still functional and wouldn't put it even in the quality class of the Vanguard II's - so unless I live to be 100 odd years old I'm probably fine)

Of course all of the above applies to me because, as hunting rifles, even if I see say 25 more "hunting seasons", each rifle would probably only see 100 rounds each and maybe only 20 or so that "actually count". For the price savings alone on the Vanguard I could buy factory ammunition to feed them "for the rest of my life" and still not lay out as much money compared to buying the Accumark.

So for all those reasons, unless money was not even the slightest consideration, I personally couldn't see dropping the dollars "just to say" that I have an Accumark, because it certainly wouldn't do a better job "for me".
Graham
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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2015, 08:33:46 PM »
Is it worth paying the extra cost for a Mercedes compared to a Chevy?  Both will get you down the road but your choice will depend on your personal preferences/needs as well as your bank account.  Disclaimer: I own a Chevy (and an Accumark).

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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2015, 11:46:28 PM »
LIfe is waaay too short to hunt with a rifle you don't like regardless of the cost.

Try to handle em both and see which one you prefer. If you like the features of the MKV over the S2...go for it. If not, there are no flies on the S2. I have one S1, sold another S1 and have an S2. Mine have all worn B&C Medalist stocks and were very accurate.

I don't see how you could make the "wrong" choice with either one...if you like their features.     

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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2015, 07:08:41 AM »
Like some have said, handle them both, and see for yourself.  However, the Mark V action is extremely strong, beefy, heavy, and very smooth, and I specially like the 54 degree bolt.  I own Mark Vs and Vanguard and its unfair to do a comparison because each rifle is in its own class. If you have the $$$$, I would go with a  Fibermark, or the  Accumark.  Good luck, and let us know what you decide.
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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2015, 12:12:52 PM »
Amen on the Accumark. If you want lighter, go for the Ultra Light Mk V.
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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2015, 09:07:36 PM »
Don't forget the Vanguard Back Country.  Worth some research.



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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 05:41:22 PM »
A guy really should have an Accumark and a Vanguard.  I have one of each. I probably should have a few more. 

Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 07:55:07 PM »
+1 Chip. ;D What caliber you looking at Dra?
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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2015, 06:36:31 PM »
If it was me not that my opinion should matter. I have an S2 in .257 and had a .300 wby mag in the S2. Somebody offered me enough money and bought the .300. If it was me and I had it to do all over. I would buy a S2 if I was buying something in a standard caliber and a Mark V if I was getting a Wby caliber especially if it was a 6.5 wby mag. Well, still wishing on that.
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Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2015, 07:16:49 PM »
Makes total sense to me.  ;D
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Drathaar

Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2015, 08:29:25 PM »
I am in the process of pursuing the 270 WBY in Accumark from Gun Broker

Blaze

Re: Accumark vs Vangaurd 2
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2015, 02:46:02 AM »
If you don't mind the added weight, the accumark is a much better rifle... I own several accumarks including a 270 wby which is my favorite - and I have total confidence in it as long as I do my part. It is comfortable to shoot.  The 257 may be even more comfortable, but I still prefer the 270.
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Vangd SUB MOA SS 22-250, 257 wby, 300 wby and 300 wby
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BAR 30-06, 338
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